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Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

PureAgeless — Fri, 09 May 2008 06:56:49 -0000

Thank you for this informative article. I have had my blog for just over a year now. I review products and services and have not used "nofollow" not because I'm nice, but just because I was not aware of this "game" from the powers that be. I have given tons and tons of "link love" - I'm feeling like the Mother Teresa of Link Love. My page rank has never changed from a zero. I am just starting to learn why. My site includes a database of doctors who prescribe a certain type of medication and a database of a certain type of pharmacy which is able to make up this medicine (bioidentical hormones). It is the first site that gives readers this type of information all in one place. One these pages, I link out to each and every doctor and (compounding) pharmacy. This is the first site in Canada and the U.S. to do this. I report the latest health research in the media. Link out to each and every source story. All without the nofollow. I have also commented and contributed to quite a few websites and could not understand why I had so few "backlinks". I think my site has value - at least by my ever growing readership I believe it does and the (verbal) comments I have received from doctors and pharmacists. Well, now I know. I suppose I have to go and download a "no follow" plugin now. It's a shame really in the blogging world when blogging was supposed to be about Web 2.0 and its theory that content would now be generated by both the creator and the reader. Will a cloud of silence fall upon the blogsphere? The last few days I have been checking the sites I've been commenting on. Yes, indeed, they have "nofollow" in the code in the View Source. I'm thinking this is sort of ridiculous.
I can't understand why Google became the God of the internet. Why is it illegal to sell links? Is the blog/website owner not the owner of a business? Can they not determine how they are to generate income?
Okay, okay, I'll go download that "no follow" plugin and try and figure out which links to add nofollow to and which not to. That's going to take me hours and hours and hours instead of doing my research and article writing.
Sorry for the long comment, I'm just a bit peeved. And if you do follow this posting, thank you so much. I'll be back to your site because there's obviously A Lot for me to learn.

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

PureAgeless — Fri, 09 May 2008 06:56:49 -0000

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

News for all — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:44:39 -0000

Another pagerank update happened a few days ago.

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

News for all — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:44:39 -0000

Another pagerank update happened a few days ago.

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

Becky — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 07:57:56 -0000

I've just had my pagerank reinstated too. I was remove early in December and I requested re-inclusion 2 times and it finally worked. Andy I sent you an email via you contact form, but I guess you get many requests.

Anyway I am a happy camper !

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

Becky — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 07:57:56 -0000

Anyway I am a happy camper !

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

Ken Y-N — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:15:29 -0000

Just in case you're still following this, Japan Today finally got slapped down to PR4.

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

Ken Y-N — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:15:29 -0000

Just in case you're still following this, Japan Today finally got slapped down to PR4.

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

Lea de Groot — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:28:39 -0000

Hey Andy!

Looks like they may be removing the guilt-trip on the reconsideration request:
http://www.mattcutts.com/bl...
Lets hope it goes through, eh? :)

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

Lea de Groot — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:28:39 -0000

Hey Andy!

Looks like they may be removing the guilt-trip on the reconsideration request:
http://www.mattcutts.com/bl...
Lets hope it goes through, eh? :)

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

ScreenRant.com — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:46:46 -0000

Ya know.... call me paranoid but I do believe that I'm going to discontinue selling links on my site. I'll tell you what has me nervous: This has been the most step by step, or staged thing I've ever seen Google do. On my site:

PR6 -> PR4 -> PR3 -> PR0

I'm assuming that at each stage perhaps, the site was being checked to see whether the paid links had been removed.

My worry? That the next stage will FINALLY be impact in the SERPs, especially in view of the fact they've added the paid link is a no-no paragraph to their webmaster guidelines.

Vic

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

ScreenRant.com — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:46:46 -0000

PR6 -> PR4 -> PR3 -> PR0

I'm assuming that at each stage perhaps, the site was being checked to see whether the paid links had been removed.

My worry? That the next stage will FINALLY be impact in the SERPs, especially in view of the fact they've added the paid link is a no-no paragraph to their webmaster guidelines.

Vic

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

multippt — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:06:57 -0000

Looks like the PageRank carnage is still ongoing. I started to notice that there are now more and more sites getting hit by the total PageRank reset (most notably Izea).

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

multippt — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:06:57 -0000

Looks like the PageRank carnage is still ongoing. I started to notice that there are now more and more sites getting hit by the total PageRank reset (most notably Izea).

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

Arnold — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:19:06 -0000

So, David, you're telling us that you've never, ever bought anything on the basis of an advertisement anywhere?

I take it that you built your own house as, of course, you wouldn't have bought from the paid advertisement that any estate agent had, would you?

I guess that you don't have a car either. After all, the car sales guy is getting paid to sell it to you and tell you how wonderful it is.

In todays consumer society, could you explain to us all just how you get your information?

I don't argue that all paid posts are wonderful. Many are total garbage. On the other hand, many are very thorough reviews of the service on offer and out of all proportion to the amount of money being paid.

In a lot of cases, paid posts blend into the background of the blog so much that it would be difficult for an outsider to know that one is paid whilst another is not. I would challenge anyone to identify all the finance posts that I've done which are paid for, purely by looking at the text. Likewise for the travel posts.

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

Arnold — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:19:06 -0000

So, David, you're telling us that you've never, ever bought anything on the basis of an advertisement anywhere?

I take it that you built your own house as, of course, you wouldn't have bought from the paid advertisement that any estate agent had, would you?

I guess that you don't have a car either. After all, the car sales guy is getting paid to sell it to you and tell you how wonderful it is.

In todays consumer society, could you explain to us all just how you get your information?

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

Arnold — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:09:14 -0000

Perhaps a silly question, but if they don't like paid reviews which, on the whole, are effectively the advertiser buying a link in context, then does that mean that they will be dropping the PR of all paid directories to zero too?

In many ways, that makes a lot more sense although I suspect that they'd have more than a few legal problems in doing it.

Also, I gather that from the PPP blog that it's a matter of having words like PPP, PayPerPost, ReviewMe and so on in your posts which is now getting hit. That does sound rather like supressing freedom of expression to me. Oh, sorry, I forgot that google doesn't believe in that in google.cn and so on.

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

Arnold — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:09:14 -0000

In many ways, that makes a lot more sense although I suspect that they'd have more than a few legal problems in doing it.

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

AndyBeard — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:15:04 -0000

Jonathan, they actually have quite an unnatural linking structure in that almost all the links they receive seem to be to their home page, at least in Yahoo - it seems like more than 90%

Maybe that is from their other properties

It is possible that a large number of the links might have been from some kind of incentive.

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

AndyBeard — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:15:04 -0000

Jonathan, they actually have quite an unnatural linking structure in that almost all the links they receive seem to be to their home page, at least in Yahoo - it seems like more than 90%

Maybe that is from their other properties

It is possible that a large number of the links might have been from some kind of incentive.

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

AndyBeard — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:13:21 -0000

Amazing insight David ;), but ultimately the same is true about affiliate links.

Effectively the quality of the content is down to the amount of time someone spends writing a review.
If you spend a few hours on a review, and charge more for your time, then the quality of content is sufficient to get a large number of consulting offers, as happens with me, the vast majority I turn down because I don't really do consulting.

Here is an example of a paid review that triggered a lot of work offers.
http://andybeard.eu/2007/06...

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

AndyBeard — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:13:21 -0000

Amazing insight David ;), but ultimately the same is true about affiliate links.

Here is an example of a paid review that triggered a lot of work offers.
http://andybeard.eu/2007/06...

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

David — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:54:27 -0000

I don't care what payperpost says or their mercenary writers have to say. When I am in the role as a consumer I do not want to read "paid" reviews.

How many own and use the products and services they write about?

I read a paidperpost review today on a floor and tile company written by a 22 year old college drop out who lived at home rent free eating her mommy and daddy's food.

I will never buy a damn thing from a "paid" review. Do a survey among consumers and I'll be you find that the majority will not either.

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

David — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:54:27 -0000

I don't care what payperpost says or their mercenary writers have to say. When I am in the role as a consumer I do not want to read "paid" reviews.

How many own and use the products and services they write about?

I read a paidperpost review today on a floor and tile company written by a 22 year old college drop out who lived at home rent free eating her mommy and daddy's food.

I will never buy a damn thing from a "paid" review. Do a survey among consumers and I'll be you find that the majority will not either.

Re: ZeroRank – More PageRank Carnage (Round 5)

AndyBeard — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:50:03 -0000

I am trying to monitor what is going on to get some clear signals.

I have actually thought of a way to plead reinclusion without making too many changes. Say you have gone through your outbound links and removed links (nofollowed) to sites that might be looked on as a bad neighbour.

You removing (with nofollow) TLA is a good idea, maybe also John Chow, but it seems currently that PayPerPost ranks for their own name, and there were lots of blog posts about PayPerPost that were compensated, so obviously based upon that PPP should be ok...
But then in some things Google isn't quite logical.