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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>Andy Beard - Internet Business Systems Discussion - Latest Comments in You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.disqus.com/</link><description>Internet Marketing, Lead Acquisition, Online Business Strategy and Social Media with Original Opinion and Loads of Attitude</description><atom:link href="https://andybeard.disqus.com/you_can039t_charge_for_twitter_popularity_37/latest.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:01:55 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-12528980</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Twitter is new to me.  I have been on a while, and have around 100 followers, following twice that many.  i enjoy it.  Is it a sevice I would pay for?  Perhaps a small amount, but not much.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;One thing I can see twitter starting to charge for would be a 'premium' account that would take off the 'dofollow' tags.  therefore your more or less buying backlinks. whether that is what you want or not, that is up to you.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;i do agree with doing the follow for a twitter id, or charging some people (ie &lt;a href="http://woot.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="woot.com"&gt;woot.com&lt;/a&gt;) a subscription fee for advertising their deals to everyone.  it would have to be a mass broadcast to work in my opinion.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Hunter Jackson</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:01:55 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-10994663</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Twitter is new to me.  I have been on a while, and have around 100 followers, following twice that many.  i enjoy it.  Is it a sevice I would pay for?  Perhaps a small amount, but not much.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;One thing I can see twitter starting to charge for would be a 'premium' account that would take off the 'dofollow' tags.  therefore your more or less buying backlinks. whether that is what you want or not, that is up to you.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;i do agree with doing the follow for a twitter id, or charging some people (ie &lt;a href="http://woot.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="woot.com"&gt;woot.com&lt;/a&gt;) a subscription fee for advertising their deals to everyone.  it would have to be a mass broadcast to work in my opinion.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Hunter Jackson</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:01:55 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-12528979</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I follow people for leads on local news as well as people who have good industry knowledge (like you Andy).  Much of the A-listers post such crap that its hard to follow them.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Raleigh, NC</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:59:57 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-10994662</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I follow people for leads on local news as well as people who have good industry knowledge (like you Andy).  Much of the A-listers post such crap that its hard to follow them.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Raleigh, NC</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:59:57 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-12528978</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I only Follow people that have something interesting to say about what I am involved in!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I cannot imagine how @Scobleizer follows 21k! Does he read what they have o say? Or he just talks to everyone from the top down and wants them to do as he says? He himself admitted in a Tweet that people want to be told what to do. I disagree with that people want to participate in the process of building creative ideas!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We are a community of Internet users with common goals. So, we all have a voice that is counted towards consensus.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Maybe @Scobleizer is Mussolini and he is a Totalitarian Dictator! When Sobleizer speaks, everybody listens or they get Blocked and even Banned on Twitter! LOL&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There is nothing wrong with a large following as long as you let your followers contribute as well.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Like Andy, Maki, Darren they all let their followers say things and even be controversial at times.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think what makes a strong leader is a strong base of followers not Yes Sir, Thank You Sir!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ha,ha! A bit off topic.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">igorthetroll</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 09:04:31 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-10994661</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I only Follow people that have something interesting to say about what I am involved in!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I cannot imagine how @Scobleizer follows 21k! Does he read what they have o say? Or he just talks to everyone from the top down and wants them to do as he says? He himself admitted in a Tweet that people want to be told what to do. I disagree with that people want to participate in the process of building creative ideas!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We are a community of Internet users with common goals. So, we all have a voice that is counted towards consensus.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Maybe @Scobleizer is Mussolini and he is a Totalitarian Dictator! When Sobleizer speaks, everybody listens or they get Blocked and even Banned on Twitter! LOL&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There is nothing wrong with a large following as long as you let your followers contribute as well.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Like Andy, Maki, Darren they all let their followers say things and even be controversial at times.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think what makes a strong leader is a strong base of followers not Yes Sir, Thank You Sir!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ha,ha! A bit off topic.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">igorthetroll</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 09:04:31 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-12528977</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with you, Andy. It's just counter-intuitive to penalize the very people who form the base of Twitter's popularity. I think Igor's ideas are superb as far as creating a revenue model for Twitter. Ads, collaboration with the telecoms, working with the social networks, and using Twitter as a platform to launch businesses. As a user, like you I wouldn't mind receiving a marketing email from Twitter, nor like Igor, having to follow a  TWITTER account and get their updates. I'd probably drastically reduce the people I follow to a bare few, if I'd be made to pay for each one. And I imagine everyone would too, destroying Twitter's phenomenal reach.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Mike at Pacebutler Recycling</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 07:17:58 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-10994660</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with you, Andy. It's just counter-intuitive to penalize the very people who form the base of Twitter's popularity. I think Igor's ideas are superb as far as creating a revenue model for Twitter. Ads, collaboration with the telecoms, working with the social networks, and using Twitter as a platform to launch businesses. As a user, like you I wouldn't mind receiving a marketing email from Twitter, nor like Igor, having to follow a  TWITTER account and get their updates. I'd probably drastically reduce the people I follow to a bare few, if I'd be made to pay for each one. And I imagine everyone would too, destroying Twitter's phenomenal reach.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Mike at Pacebutler Recycling</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 07:17:58 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-12528976</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, I totally forgot! Twitter can share in revenue stream with mobile network providers. I would not be surprised if they already doing this.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When you use SMS to send a Twitt to Twitter you have to pay for that. If you use a mobile browser platform to post a message you are using up your data packets.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;With so many people using Twitter on their mobile phone it is in the best interest of Twitter to have more and more users.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I did some consulting for a Mobile Telecoms company in Asia, so that was their business model with application providers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Download a ringtone for free but using up your data allowance. The ringtone provider shared in the stream of revenue.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">igorthetroll</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 08:43:07 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-10994659</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, I totally forgot! Twitter can share in revenue stream with mobile network providers. I would not be surprised if they already doing this.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When you use SMS to send a Twitt to Twitter you have to pay for that. If you use a mobile browser platform to post a message you are using up your data packets.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;With so many people using Twitter on their mobile phone it is in the best interest of Twitter to have more and more users.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I did some consulting for a Mobile Telecoms company in Asia, so that was their business model with application providers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Download a ringtone for free but using up your data allowance. The ringtone provider shared in the stream of revenue.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">igorthetroll</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 08:43:07 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-12528975</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Pretty comprehensive list of arguments here, Andy. And I do not think I would want Twitter to implement any monetization strategy  based on heavy users and the number of people they follow. The only trend I notice myself is that the majority of heavy users also rely on some desktop client to use Twitter more efficiently (of course, it is a nightmare to try using Twitter without it when you follow hundreds of people and actually want to engage in discussions with them) and a better idea would be to charge users for access to Twitter via API through some third-party application. Otherwise I would not want them to charge me based on the people I want to listen to. But I would not mind them charging me for extra comfort.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Svetlana Gladkova - Profy</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 07:09:59 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-10994658</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Pretty comprehensive list of arguments here, Andy. And I do not think I would want Twitter to implement any monetization strategy  based on heavy users and the number of people they follow. The only trend I notice myself is that the majority of heavy users also rely on some desktop client to use Twitter more efficiently (of course, it is a nightmare to try using Twitter without it when you follow hundreds of people and actually want to engage in discussions with them) and a better idea would be to charge users for access to Twitter via API through some third-party application. Otherwise I would not want them to charge me based on the people I want to listen to. But I would not mind them charging me for extra comfort.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Svetlana Gladkova - Profy</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 07:09:59 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-12528974</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Completely agree with you Igor. Twitter might not be making any money or satisfy people as Andy suggest, but there is so much more to Twitter if you dig just a little deeper. What a great platform for instant communication, discussions and interactively. Everything web 2.0 is about!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks for sharing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nick :-)&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Nick Sutton</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 06:24:11 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-10994657</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Completely agree with you Igor. Twitter might not be making any money or satisfy people as Andy suggest, but there is so much more to Twitter if you dig just a little deeper. What a great platform for instant communication, discussions and interactively. Everything web 2.0 is about!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks for sharing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nick :-)&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Nick Sutton</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 06:24:11 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-12528973</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Come on guys, you are not getting the Twitter business model. Anyone buying Twitter Inc. gets to have all these users.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So who ever gets it will build other applications around it! Everybody is hooked on Twitter, because of the Power users using the service!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hey Twitter can turn around and Ask Face Book, Friend Feed and other social networks that use its API connectivity for usage fee!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It is like you guys could not imagine how Google would make money when it first started, well Adsense! Now Google buying up properties just to retain its users!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Can someone tell me how Youtube is making money? Gmail, GDocs, etc.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are complementary services to Google search engine which makes revenue from Adsense.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Please think out of the Box.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">igorthetroll</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 06:13:34 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-10994656</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Come on guys, you are not getting the Twitter business model. Anyone buying Twitter Inc. gets to have all these users.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So who ever gets it will build other applications around it! Everybody is hooked on Twitter, because of the Power users using the service!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hey Twitter can turn around and Ask Face Book, Friend Feed and other social networks that use its API connectivity for usage fee!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It is like you guys could not imagine how Google would make money when it first started, well Adsense! Now Google buying up properties just to retain its users!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Can someone tell me how Youtube is making money? Gmail, GDocs, etc.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are complementary services to Google search engine which makes revenue from Adsense.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Please think out of the Box.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">igorthetroll</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 06:13:34 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-12528972</link><description>&lt;p&gt;pay for push makes sense, but there are a lot of people on twitter that sign up hoping you will follow back - I have seen people that follow 30 thousand others. I can't see paying for people like that, even less value than stumbleupon traffic!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">McLaughlin</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 02:47:38 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-10994655</link><description>&lt;p&gt;pay for push makes sense, but there are a lot of people on twitter that sign up hoping you will follow back - I have seen people that follow 30 thousand others. I can't see paying for people like that, even less value than stumbleupon traffic!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">McLaughlin</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 02:47:38 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-10994654</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I wouldn't mind if I was required to follow "Twitter" for example and received a tweet from them daily with a "recommended" item to buy&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">samirb</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 22:01:00 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: You Can&amp;#039;t Charge For Twitter Popularity</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1397/twitter-business-model.html#comment-12528971</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I wouldn't mind if I was required to follow "Twitter" for example and received a tweet from them daily with a "recommended" item to buy&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">samirb</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 22:01:00 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>