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Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

MMA Pound For Pound — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:52:10 -0000

I have never tried this button before. The Fav.o.r.i.t team has good work to follow up this post.

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

AndyBeard — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:19:20 -0000

On this site I am not tracking specifically, because you can't using Tweetmeme - adding a lot of tracking parameters to a URL would mean it isn't the same canonical URL, what this post was about.

However when using a service such as Bit.ly or Cli.gs, and you see 2000 clicks, and in Google Analytics you see 600 visits from Twitter and 1300 direct (just a made up example), then you know it is from people using various applications/clients.

Or just look at your tweet stream and see how many are using web compared to various twitter apps

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

authorityseo — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:27:20 -0000

That makes sense. How are you tracking the Twitter traffic to know that it
comes up as direct?

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

AndyBeard — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:44:30 -0000

You can't see the real traffic in Google Analytics without including tracking links, and most Twitter traffic will be listed as direct.

Maybe you want to split test different calls to action, different twitter accounts etc.

Maybe you want to identify users who send the most traffic, even if they don't receive affiliate compensation

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

AndyBeard — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:38:15 -0000

Most of the retweet plugins will use bit.ly or other shorteners, and it doesn't take much tinkering in the ocde to use a different shortener if you require.
They can also use authorization keys so it is attributed to your account.

Most also include additional analytics tracking links for Google analytics

Tweetmeme however is my current favorite for social proof as they seem to be able to count lots of tweets from different sources.

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

Ed Bisquera — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:17:44 -0000

I see the benefits of either retweet method, but what are the advantages over one?

I like the idea of a Wordpress plugin, branding with my user account, and having analytics, but does the plugin automatically create short links via bit.ly?

I'm still a newbie Twitter/blogger, so I'm investigating options to retweet.

Thanks,

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

authorityseo — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:39:22 -0000

The wordpress plugin allowed me to brand the tweetme with my user account instead of tweetme it says authorityseo.

I can see how many people tweet me or retweet me for each post which it counts. I can see the traffic I get from Twitter and what the landing pages are from my analytics. This tells me what articles people like and what posts followers like that tweeted me.

I am not sure what other stats would be necessary especially if it would slow done the load time.

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

AndyBeard — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:32:03 -0000

I can see the benefits of a static link, plus it is quite easy to program a clickable link automatically and end up with something like [tweetlink] that pulls from the permalink, creates a short link using API, uses blog post title or custom field (or a custom field in Headspace 2), or even split test them.

However I can also see the benefit of a standard button that visitors are trained to click, and that provides social proof

I am a greedy marketer looking for the flexibility of one method, combined with the social proof of another

I am not looking to create a "fake" viral effect or social proof, but just one that can be nudged by incentives.

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

Paul Hancox (.com) — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:53:39 -0000

Andy, I prefer to create my own retweet links within the text of the post, so that they also appear within RSS feeds. (For some blogs, the majority of subscribers may not even see a plug-in button in their RSS feed!)

I wrote a blog post about how to create a text retweet link, but it boils down to 3 fairly quick steps...

1. After publishing, get your blog post's URL and shorten it if necessary (using something like Bit.ly)

2. Go to RetweetLink.com, pop in the retweet message and get the retweet link.

3. Add a message to the bottom of your blog post, ie. "Twitter users, click here to retweet Andy's post."

It does take a few extra minutes, but if you've spent an hour or more writing a blog post, an extra 2 minutes is nothing to give it that extra viral reach - along with complete control over the message, and your RSS subscribers being able to use it, too!

Plus, an extra bonus tip: You can also use these text retweet links in email, on static web pages, in PDF documents... :)

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

AndyBeard — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 04:46:33 -0000

Not until you can define additional links

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

ZenGlen — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 05:16:35 -0000

Hey all, is there any way to force tweetmeme plugin to use tinyurl or some other link shortening service?

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

AndyBeard — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:42:35 -0000

Antisocial is effectively in retirement, it was only a hack, and Joost took over development of Sociable, and fixed it with the same features.

Offering it depends on your niche.

I include buttons that relate to my primary audience and where my primary audience is welcome to participate without discrimination.

Twitter meets those requirements, and I believe so does Tweetmeme, at least unless people start gaming them with bots.

There isn't a need to nofollow the buttons

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

Michael Goldstein — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:22:22 -0000

Hi Andy,

i like your antisocial plugin. i notice you only use the tweetmeme plugin now instead. a few questions:

1) do u recommend that we no longer offer social bookmarking buttons on our blogs?
2) have u customized the tweetmeme plugin with no follow for better seo?

thnx for sharing some much great information.

Michael

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

Adam Pieniazek — Fri, 22 May 2009 17:54:39 -0000

The title part is killer right now. Like many other bloggers, my header title is more geared to SEO while my post title is meant to hook the reader in. There should be an option but seems most bloggers would prefer it use their post title, as it's likely the more enticing of the two and thus more likely to get clicked on twitter.

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

Neostead — Tue, 19 May 2009 19:04:52 -0000

Think it's a great thing on balance. I'd like to see the ability to not show how often a post has been tweeted because even 9 tweets can look pathetic. It's like an automatic judgment or review of the post, which may be way more interesting than the number of tweets actually signifies.

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

Samantha — Mon, 18 May 2009 11:48:00 -0000

I think tweetmeme has the speed of twitter, and the link quality of digg. fantastic idea, just needing some fine tuning!

honestly, twitter is too fast for me. like information overload. tweetmeme set a nice pace, and shows me stuff that matter more than others.

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

The Agra Indian — Sun, 17 May 2009 23:41:20 -0000

'Tweetmeme toolbar is really good I am planning to add it to my blog. It is little bit annoying to sit on Twitter web interface to whole the day for marketing purpose. Now I just need to write quality content on my site and that will be my area of focus.

Thanks Andy for the great post about the benefits of this tool bar. Your efforts for its improvement are appreciated.

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

jason — Fri, 15 May 2009 04:17:24 -0000

Twitter is very dizzying to me. I'm sure there are millions of people who like the onslaught of information - don't get me wrong, I like twitter for what it can be, but getting there can become a total timesuck. I really need to try out a few twitter app sites to manage the timeline better. I retweeted - thanks!

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

Princess — Fri, 15 May 2009 00:52:13 -0000

I normally use tweetter for tweetting my friends. I have never experience using it for marketing or optimizing my site. So, i don't have the problem regarding whether tweeting is good for marketing or not. Lucky me... :)

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

Vlad — Thu, 14 May 2009 17:36:44 -0000

There are categories like "food and drink" that seemed to be featured with 2 retweets, so the amount of tweets evidently does not matter.

Also as I was looking at this post http://tweetmeme.com/story.... - and it appears to be credited to SEOSnack....

Shouldn't this entry be credited to you?

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

AndyBeard — Thu, 14 May 2009 16:55:14 -0000

Tags seem to be based upon most popular extracted terms

They seem to index all that are using the button as they actually get pinged when you post, but that doesn't mean you get featured. No idea about threshold to appear in hot lists.

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

Vlad — Thu, 14 May 2009 14:58:28 -0000

Andy,

Just because one installs the plugin does not necessarily mean his or her posts will be featured on tweetmeme.com?

Also I am a little confused as to how the posts are being tagged at tweetmeme.com? Do they match the tags on your blog?

Would appreciate your insight.

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

Chuggin McCoffee — Thu, 14 May 2009 13:44:41 -0000

I so far have found twitter to be a really awesome marketing tool and have been using Tweetmeme for quite some time

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Loan Modification — Mon, 11 May 2009 14:32:06 -0000

I will definitely be adding a tweet me button to my blog. Its like combining the best of Digg and Twitter; I love it!

Re: Why Tweetmeme Sucks For Marketers

Alex — Mon, 11 May 2009 09:11:09 -0000

Hum, this Tweetmeme thing sounds intersting. Congratulations to get heard by Tweetmeme development team ;]