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Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Donavan — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:58:44 -0000

I want to disagree on these points.

* The content within comments - keywords, language structure, length etc
* The number of comments
* Update frequency of the page (gaining additional comments over time)

One can create a blog that will generate comments in certain intervals of time. Or the script can just parse the comments from other blogs and insert them in the generated one. Google will not be able to understand that the comments are generated ones.

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Donavan — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:58:44 -0000

I want to disagree on these points.

* The content within comments - keywords, language structure, length etc
* The number of comments
* Update frequency of the page (gaining additional comments over time)

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Alex — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:27:10 -0000

Another factor that can help to identify if this is a blog or splog is trackbacks. When there are a lot of trackbacks from another blogs it could mean that this is a real blog.

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Alex — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:27:10 -0000

Another factor that can help to identify if this is a blog or splog is trackbacks. When there are a lot of trackbacks from another blogs it could mean that this is a real blog.

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Chan — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:35:38 -0000

I like to see the FriendFeed comments available as a separate feed, too. With high volume FriendFeeds (twitter, etc.), it can sometimes be really hard to find the comments amongst all of the content. Thanks for sharings.

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Chan — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:35:38 -0000

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Blog Bloke — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:16:40 -0000

Glad to see that I'm not the only one who's concerned. If we're not careful our last post could be our own blog epitaph. Good post Andy.

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Blog Bloke — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:16:40 -0000

Glad to see that I'm not the only one who's concerned. If we're not careful our last post could be our own blog epitaph. Good post Andy.

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

James Vadas, SEO, Sydney. — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:34:24 -0000

Google has a huge responsibility to manage scraping, splogging and duplicate content issues, and it doesn't always do so well, and, as you pointed out, sometimes encourages the problem.

The future of the internet being a place of expression and creativity is dependant on these issues being solved. Who could be bothered blogging year in, year out, if all their words get ripped of on a regular basis?

A simple solution to all these issues could be for Google to allow bloggers to "ping" them with a new post to their blog. It would timestamp the blog and thereafter visit and index it.

This would be foolproof as no splogger could ever get a timestamp earlier than the original blog author. There would be no more ambiguity as to the original author.

The author would of course have the responsibility to initiate the ping, but any blogger in his right mind would take this seriously and make this part of their routine, immediately after posting. If they neglect to do so, and someone steals their post, they would only have themselves to blame.

Google could thus apply heavily it's duplicate content filters, not only in the SERPs, but also to it's RSS reader.

Am I insane, or is this actually a simple solution to a complex issue?

James.

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

James Vadas, SEO, Sydney. — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:34:24 -0000

Google has a huge responsibility to manage scraping, splogging and duplicate content issues, and it doesn't always do so well, and, as you pointed out, sometimes encourages the problem.

A simple solution to all these issues could be for Google to allow bloggers to "ping" them with a new post to their blog. It would timestamp the blog and thereafter visit and index it.

This would be foolproof as no splogger could ever get a timestamp earlier than the original blog author. There would be no more ambiguity as to the original author.

Google could thus apply heavily it's duplicate content filters, not only in the SERPs, but also to it's RSS reader.

Am I insane, or is this actually a simple solution to a complex issue?

James.

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Michael Fowke — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:05:26 -0000

Andy,

Do you think a blog that doesn't allow comments can be a real blog? I'm concerned about this. I don't allow comments on my blog - Money is the Way, but I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing. The problem is, I don't like spam, or bad spelling and grammar (I'm very neurotic about that), and I'm not even sure that comments would be suitable for my sort of blog. However, I only have a pagerank of 3 after 13 months - that's not great, is it?

Regards

Michael Fowke

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Michael Fowke — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:05:26 -0000

Andy,

Regards

Michael Fowke

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Dan - Life Coaching — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:20:57 -0000

Surely the point of a blog is to create loads of original content for the search engines and have a place that people can visit time and time again and feel a part of the shaping of the content. Kill off blogs and surely you'll lose the human element of websites.

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Dan - Life Coaching — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:20:57 -0000

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

The Modern Savage — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:44:28 -0000

Andy,

You might want to check this site out:
http://fav.or.it/

It's essentially a new RSS reader except that it has the ability to read and write comments from within the reader itself. I haven't used it yet because they haven't let me into the beta testing but if this thing takes off it will definitely change the way people interact with blog content.

If integrated comments become a standard practice, then it will certainly change the way people make money off of their blog. I assume people will just have to adapt to a different type of advertising.

-Matt

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

The Modern Savage — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:44:28 -0000

Andy,

You might want to check this site out:
http://fav.or.it/

-Matt

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Affordable Search Engine Optim — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:42:03 -0000

There are tons of small brick and mortar businesses that would do very well to have a blog instead of a website. I've worked with several local businesses to impliment a blog, and for most of the businesses, it's resulted in a huge difference in the amount of potential customers visiting their site now vs when they had a static html page. (with frames)

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Affordable Search Engine Optim — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:42:03 -0000

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Aaron at FullTiltBlogging.com — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:29:24 -0000

This post was featured in today's Daily Blog Summary--a daily summary of the top 50 Make Money Blogging blogs.

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Aaron at FullTiltBlogging.com — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:29:24 -0000

This post was featured in today's Daily Blog Summary--a daily summary of the top 50 Make Money Blogging blogs.

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Daniel McGonagle — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:59:02 -0000

andy, thi smight be a little off-topic here,
but your post title caught my attention.

We all "know" that blogs are SEO magnets, and that
they can pull traffic in form all corners of the web,
but I was talking to a marketing buddy of mine and she says
she's had mor eluck with her SEO resulrs with static html and php sites thna she did with professionally designed SEO-ed to the max blogs.

It shouldn't be that way, but it turned out that, for her,
she could say, "Why have blogs at all? indeed

The thing is, if it wasn't for RSS readers, I probably wouldn't be getting your information delivered to my desktop.

Blogs are here to stay, but aren't easier to read than regular websites, according to my reader's feedback

Thanks,

Dan

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Daniel McGonagle — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:59:02 -0000

andy, thi smight be a little off-topic here,
but your post title caught my attention.

It shouldn't be that way, but it turned out that, for her,
she could say, "Why have blogs at all? indeed

The thing is, if it wasn't for RSS readers, I probably wouldn't be getting your information delivered to my desktop.

Blogs are here to stay, but aren't easier to read than regular websites, according to my reader's feedback

Thanks,

Dan

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Seduction Tips — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:30:05 -0000

I get a ton of scrapers off my feed. Quite annoying. Then I realized that Google would know the difference, and has noted it so far in search results. Nothing to worry about.

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

Seduction Tips — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:30:05 -0000

I get a ton of scrapers off my feed. Quite annoying. Then I realized that Google would know the difference, and has noted it so far in search results. Nothing to worry about.

Re: Why Have Blogs At All? – The Race To Kill Blogging

AndyBeard — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:50:47 -0000

Mark I mentioned trackbacks in the discussion on Friendfeed to Paul's post.

It is a short term partial solution, as will be various APIs.

I was thinking more the long term solution, and also as a better way for a comment system to be constructed to account for multiple input streams.

I was also taking into account that a blog post in many ways a comment in itself.

I must admit I am not up to speed on SIOC - the WP plugin looks old, does it work with more recent WP versions? They need to learn how to distribute plugins for the masses.