I'm about to run out the door to a wedding - but I'll quickly say this:
I tried in my review to put it in personal terms as much as possible. It doesn't fit with my style of blogging or my own ethical framework around blogging. But that's what v7N asked me to share when they approached me to do the review.
I'll also add that there are a few differences on ProBlogger between my affiliate links/referral links to V7N.
1. The one's you're talking about as 'recommended money makers' are not in content. They're on my side bar. When I have recommended them in content I've given reasons for doing so and have identified them as aff links. In fact I used to have 'some links are aff links' under that section but in a recent redesign tweak I deleted it accidentally - I've fixed that up (thanks for the reminder).
2. The links are to products/services that I actually have used, recommend and have in most cases done reviews of on my blog.
3. They are generally labled as aff links or ads.
4. They are links to services that are widely used and trusted.
5. They are links that are relevant to the topic I write about and that I believe are useful to my readers.
While I understand V7N screen advertisers to make sure they're worthwhile sites that use the service I don't have the time or energy to surf every link that they want me to include to see whether I trust it or whether it's relevant or useful to my readers and I kind of doubt most others who use the service will either.
Honestly - I've got nothing against people making money off line - I don't mind text links - I just think there needs to be a level of transparency around it.
Darren
· 2 years ago
I'm about to run out the door to a wedding - but I'll quickly say this:
I tried in my review to put it in personal terms as much as possible. It doesn't fit with my style of blogging or my own ethical framework around blogging. But that's what v7N asked me to share when they approached me to do the review.
I'll also add that there are a few differences on ProBlogger between my affiliate links/referral links to V7N.
1. The one's you're talking about as 'recommended money makers' are not in content. They're on my side bar. When I have recommended them in content I've given reasons for doing so and have identified them as aff links. In fact I used to have 'some links are aff links' under that section but in a recent redesign tweak I deleted it accidentally - I've fixed that up (thanks for the reminder).
2. The links are to products/services that I actually have used, recommend and have in most cases done reviews of on my blog.
3. They are generally labled as aff links or ads.
4. They are links to services that are widely used and trusted.
5. They are links that are relevant to the topic I write about and that I believe are useful to my readers.
While I understand V7N screen advertisers to make sure they're worthwhile sites that use the service I don't have the time or energy to surf every link that they want me to include to see whether I trust it or whether it's relevant or useful to my readers and I kind of doubt most others who use the service will either.
Honestly - I've got nothing against people making money off line - I don't mind text links - I just think there needs to be a level of transparency around it.
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
I must stress there wasn't any criticism about the way you handle the ethics - you do that better than most, and I know you only recommend product you use, trust etc.
I recalled you had mentioned A links in the past and went digging for it.
I would watch the referral unit video and decide how you might want to place the unit based on Google's current policy. They may have been a little ambiguous in the Video
I haven't seen a link yet, or extremely detailed ToS for V7N. There may be a way within the rules to add something with CSS to the links as you can with various other link making tools. I am sure the guys are open to suggestions at this stage on ways to change the system such that it will be more acceptable to the blogging community. Rather than make the link look the same as normal links, they could also be made to look like other automated affiliate links.
This is all tied in with the various paid links and no follow debates going on as were most of the links at the top
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
I must stress there wasn't any criticism about the way you handle the ethics - you do that better than most, and I know you only recommend product you use, trust etc.
I recalled you had mentioned A links in the past and went digging for it.
I would watch the referral unit video and decide how you might want to place the unit based on Google's current policy. They may have been a little ambiguous in the Video
I haven't seen a link yet, or extremely detailed ToS for V7N. There may be a way within the rules to add something with CSS to the links as you can with various other link making tools. I am sure the guys are open to suggestions at this stage on ways to change the system such that it will be more acceptable to the blogging community. Rather than make the link look the same as normal links, they could also be made to look like other automated affiliate links.
This is all tied in with the various paid links and no follow debates going on as were most of the links at the top
Peter
· 2 years ago
"Rather than make the link look the same as normal links, they could also be made to look like other automated affiliate links."
The selling point of V7N links is that they are not detectable to search engines. Then why would they try to do such things?
Peter
· 2 years ago
"Rather than make the link look the same as normal links, they could also be made to look like other automated affiliate links."
The selling point of V7N links is that they are not detectable to search engines. Then why would they try to do such things?
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
Google don't threaten to devalue all your out-going links just because you have some affiliate links on your page.
I have lots of sites where almost all the outgoing links are affiliate links.
The point is to make them look like they are not paid links but are still in some way commercial, and most people will most likely be buying them for SEO purposes not clicks.
Then you can state somewhere in a disclosure policy on your site that green dashed links on your site are commercial links, but that isn't something that can be detected so easily.
Ultimately Google need to stop devaluing paid links, or to start devaluing all commercial links, such as those between sites in the same group of companies. If they can't create a level playing field for commercial links, of all kinds, they should stop victimization of the little guys
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
Google don't threaten to devalue all your out-going links just because you have some affiliate links on your page.
I have lots of sites where almost all the outgoing links are affiliate links.
The point is to make them look like they are not paid links but are still in some way commercial, and most people will most likely be buying them for SEO purposes not clicks.
Then you can state somewhere in a disclosure policy on your site that green dashed links on your site are commercial links, but that isn't something that can be detected so easily.
Ultimately Google need to stop devaluing paid links, or to start devaluing all commercial links, such as those between sites in the same group of companies. If they can't create a level playing field for commercial links, of all kinds, they should stop victimization of the little guys
Linda Bustos
· 2 years ago
I would imagine these links wouldn't be too hard to detect if Google noted which blogs suddenly started adding contextual links to old posts, and connected them with which urls suddenly start appearing on a network of these blogs, no?
Linda Bustos
· 2 years ago
I would imagine these links wouldn't be too hard to detect if Google noted which blogs suddenly started adding contextual links to old posts, and connected them with which urls suddenly start appearing on a network of these blogs, no?
Matthew
· 1 year ago
I still don't get the disclosure policy. If it gets more people to download and use the product who cares?
Matthew
· 1 year ago
I still don't get the disclosure policy. If it gets more people to download and use the product who cares?
Ami
· 1 year ago
Seems that we are splitting hairs over something we have no control over
Frustrating that the rules keep getting changed on us webmasters. As a newbie to the affiliate marketing arena compared to all of those who have commented above, it really is becoming increasingly difficult to establish a presence online.
The advantages that earlier marketers had when trying to eastablish their sites eg no 'no follow' attributes are not available to us.
I think I understand that Google is trying to produce a fair system but with some of the rules, I think ethical marketers can be hurt as much as scammers
Ami
· 1 year ago
Seems that we are splitting hairs over something we have no control over
Frustrating that the rules keep getting changed on us webmasters. As a newbie to the affiliate marketing arena compared to all of those who have commented above, it really is becoming increasingly difficult to establish a presence online.
The advantages that earlier marketers had when trying to eastablish their sites eg no 'no follow' attributes are not available to us.
I think I understand that Google is trying to produce a fair system but with some of the rules, I think ethical marketers can be hurt as much as scammers
All Comments
I tried in my review to put it in personal terms as much as possible. It doesn't fit with my style of blogging or my own ethical framework around blogging. But that's what v7N asked me to share when they approached me to do the review.
I'll also add that there are a few differences on ProBlogger between my affiliate links/referral links to V7N.
1. The one's you're talking about as 'recommended money makers' are not in content. They're on my side bar. When I have recommended them in content I've given reasons for doing so and have identified them as aff links. In fact I used to have 'some links are aff links' under that section but in a recent redesign tweak I deleted it accidentally - I've fixed that up (thanks for the reminder).
2. The links are to products/services that I actually have used, recommend and have in most cases done reviews of on my blog.
3. They are generally labled as aff links or ads.
4. They are links to services that are widely used and trusted.
5. They are links that are relevant to the topic I write about and that I believe are useful to my readers.
While I understand V7N screen advertisers to make sure they're worthwhile sites that use the service I don't have the time or energy to surf every link that they want me to include to see whether I trust it or whether it's relevant or useful to my readers and I kind of doubt most others who use the service will either.
Honestly - I've got nothing against people making money off line - I don't mind text links - I just think there needs to be a level of transparency around it.
I tried in my review to put it in personal terms as much as possible. It doesn't fit with my style of blogging or my own ethical framework around blogging. But that's what v7N asked me to share when they approached me to do the review.
I'll also add that there are a few differences on ProBlogger between my affiliate links/referral links to V7N.
1. The one's you're talking about as 'recommended money makers' are not in content. They're on my side bar. When I have recommended them in content I've given reasons for doing so and have identified them as aff links. In fact I used to have 'some links are aff links' under that section but in a recent redesign tweak I deleted it accidentally - I've fixed that up (thanks for the reminder).
2. The links are to products/services that I actually have used, recommend and have in most cases done reviews of on my blog.
3. They are generally labled as aff links or ads.
4. They are links to services that are widely used and trusted.
5. They are links that are relevant to the topic I write about and that I believe are useful to my readers.
While I understand V7N screen advertisers to make sure they're worthwhile sites that use the service I don't have the time or energy to surf every link that they want me to include to see whether I trust it or whether it's relevant or useful to my readers and I kind of doubt most others who use the service will either.
Honestly - I've got nothing against people making money off line - I don't mind text links - I just think there needs to be a level of transparency around it.
I recalled you had mentioned A links in the past and went digging for it.
I would watch the referral unit video and decide how you might want to place the unit based on Google's current policy. They may have been a little ambiguous in the Video
I haven't seen a link yet, or extremely detailed ToS for V7N. There may be a way within the rules to add something with CSS to the links as you can with various other link making tools.
I am sure the guys are open to suggestions at this stage on ways to change the system such that it will be more acceptable to the blogging community.
Rather than make the link look the same as normal links, they could also be made to look like other automated affiliate links.
This is all tied in with the various paid links and no follow debates going on as were most of the links at the top
I recalled you had mentioned A links in the past and went digging for it.
I would watch the referral unit video and decide how you might want to place the unit based on Google's current policy. They may have been a little ambiguous in the Video
I haven't seen a link yet, or extremely detailed ToS for V7N. There may be a way within the rules to add something with CSS to the links as you can with various other link making tools.
I am sure the guys are open to suggestions at this stage on ways to change the system such that it will be more acceptable to the blogging community.
Rather than make the link look the same as normal links, they could also be made to look like other automated affiliate links.
This is all tied in with the various paid links and no follow debates going on as were most of the links at the top
The selling point of V7N links is that they are not detectable to search engines. Then why would they try to do such things?
The selling point of V7N links is that they are not detectable to search engines. Then why would they try to do such things?
I have lots of sites where almost all the outgoing links are affiliate links.
The point is to make them look like they are not paid links but are still in some way commercial, and most people will most likely be buying them for SEO purposes not clicks.
Then you can state somewhere in a disclosure policy on your site that green dashed links on your site are commercial links, but that isn't something that can be detected so easily.
Ultimately Google need to stop devaluing paid links, or to start devaluing all commercial links, such as those between sites in the same group of companies. If they can't create a level playing field for commercial links, of all kinds, they should stop victimization of the little guys
I have lots of sites where almost all the outgoing links are affiliate links.
The point is to make them look like they are not paid links but are still in some way commercial, and most people will most likely be buying them for SEO purposes not clicks.
Then you can state somewhere in a disclosure policy on your site that green dashed links on your site are commercial links, but that isn't something that can be detected so easily.
Ultimately Google need to stop devaluing paid links, or to start devaluing all commercial links, such as those between sites in the same group of companies. If they can't create a level playing field for commercial links, of all kinds, they should stop victimization of the little guys
Frustrating that the rules keep getting changed on us webmasters. As a newbie to the affiliate marketing arena compared to all of those who have commented above, it really is becoming increasingly difficult to establish a presence online.
The advantages that earlier marketers had when trying to eastablish their sites eg no 'no follow' attributes are not available to us.
I think I understand that Google is trying to produce a fair system but with some of the rules, I think ethical marketers can be hurt as much as scammers
Frustrating that the rules keep getting changed on us webmasters. As a newbie to the affiliate marketing arena compared to all of those who have commented above, it really is becoming increasingly difficult to establish a presence online.
The advantages that earlier marketers had when trying to eastablish their sites eg no 'no follow' attributes are not available to us.
I think I understand that Google is trying to produce a fair system but with some of the rules, I think ethical marketers can be hurt as much as scammers