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Andy Beard - Internet Business Systems Discussion: Twitter Nofollow

  • lucia · 2 years ago
    What is Twitter thinking?!

    I'm beginning to think my no-spam links plugin -- started mostly because I wanted to teach myself to write plugins and inspired be the desire to comment on JohnChow while not giving him link juice, is going to take on a life of its own. There is definitely a need to "nofollow" sites that practice universal "nofollow" on all outbound links!
  • lucia · 2 years ago
    What is Twitter thinking?!

    I'm beginning to think my no-spam links plugin -- started mostly because I wanted to teach myself to write plugins and inspired be the desire to comment on JohnChow while not giving him link juice, is going to take on a life of its own. There is definitely a need to "nofollow" sites that practice universal "nofollow" on all outbound links!
  • Lincoln · 2 years ago
    Am I the only one who thinks this nofollow crap being done by sites like Wikipedia and Twitter is starting to get out of hand?

    The only thing I nofollow on my site are printable versions of my blogging posts and the quote links for quoting comments. I'd nofollow snotty sites that like to nofollow up the wazoo, but you know what, I just won't link to them, period. Look it up on Google if you want to know what I'm talking about. :-P
  • Lord Matt · 2 years ago
    Lincon, I agree. This is just getting stupid. nofollow is being used like some sort of magic bullit cure all but in truth it is more like using a cannon to kill a fly. I'm getting that same sort of feeling a general might have got when his utterly useless soldiers pulled out thier sowrds and spent a lot of time making swooshing noices and waving them arround while a well disiplined and skilled army of invaders marched slowly towards them. It's like that only worse.
  • Lincoln · 2 years ago
    Am I the only one who thinks this nofollow crap being done by sites like Wikipedia and Twitter is starting to get out of hand?

    The only thing I nofollow on my site are printable versions of my blogging posts and the quote links for quoting comments. I'd nofollow snotty sites that like to nofollow up the wazoo, but you know what, I just won't link to them, period. Look it up on Google if you want to know what I'm talking about. :-P
  • Lord Matt · 2 years ago
    Lincon, I agree. This is just getting stupid. nofollow is being used like some sort of magic bullit cure all but in truth it is more like using a cannon to kill a fly. I'm getting that same sort of feeling a general might have got when his utterly useless soldiers pulled out thier sowrds and spent a lot of time making swooshing noices and waving them arround while a well disiplined and skilled army of invaders marched slowly towards them. It's like that only worse.
  • Xavier · 2 years ago
    I totally disagree with nofollow tags. You see, not everybody spamming blog via comments. Most of them comment because they care about the topic.
  • Xavier · 2 years ago
    I totally disagree with nofollow tags. You see, not everybody spamming blog via comments. Most of them comment because they care about the topic.
  • John · 2 years ago
    Once everyone nofollow's what are Google going to be left with for their PageRank algorithm to work on? It's getting out of hand.
  • John · 2 years ago
    Once everyone nofollow's what are Google going to be left with for their PageRank algorithm to work on? It's getting out of hand.
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    I use nofollow extensively, but ultimately the links from my content on permalink pages are followed, and so are links from contributors in my comments.

    The interconnectivity of Twitter profiles is the problem, not the outgoing links
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    I use nofollow extensively, but ultimately the links from my content on permalink pages are followed, and so are links from contributors in my comments.

    The interconnectivity of Twitter profiles is the problem, not the outgoing links
  • Robert · 2 years ago
    I totally disagree with nofollow tags. You see, not everybody spamming blog via comments. Most of them comment because they care about the topic.


    A lot of people that knew anything about marketing did, i was oine of them damn.

    I only use nofollow on internal duplicate content.
  • Robert · 2 years ago
    I totally disagree with nofollow tags. You see, not everybody spamming blog via comments. Most of them comment because they care about the topic.


    A lot of people that knew anything about marketing did, i was oine of them damn.

    I only use nofollow on internal duplicate content.
  • lucia · 2 years ago
    The interconnectivity of Twitter profiles is the problem, not the outgoing links


    Strangely, the numerous internal links on my Twitter profile appear to be follow. Only the outgoing links are nofollow. When I auto-update from my blog posts, the outgoing links are also tinyurl's-- which I sort of assumed interfered with passing link juice. Is there even a point to making them no follow? (Isn't this sort of like two condoms?)
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    TinyURL is a 301 redirect, not ideal, but still passes something
  • lucia · 2 years ago
    The interconnectivity of Twitter profiles is the problem, not the outgoing links


    Strangely, the numerous internal links on my Twitter profile appear to be follow. Only the outgoing links are nofollow. When I auto-update from my blog posts, the outgoing links are also tinyurl's-- which I sort of assumed interfered with passing link juice. Is there even a point to making them no follow? (Isn't this sort of like two condoms?)
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    TinyURL is a 301 redirect, not ideal, but still passes something
  • Law Student Blog · 2 years ago
    Ugh, this is terrible - just when I was getting into twitter too!
  • Law Student Blog · 2 years ago
    Ugh, this is terrible - just when I was getting into twitter too!
  • Money Man · 2 years ago
    The no follow tag in general is pretty much a mess. People are using it for just about everything nowadays.
  • Money Man · 2 years ago
    The no follow tag in general is pretty much a mess. People are using it for just about everything nowadays.
  • Carl of PseudoPower · 2 years ago
    I've only started to learn about this no follow deal.

    I've heard about text links ads getting in trouble before. Now Twitter. Interesting to see how this turns out.

    Thanks for the post!
  • Carl of PseudoPower · 2 years ago
    I've only started to learn about this no follow deal.

    I've heard about text links ads getting in trouble before. Now Twitter. Interesting to see how this turns out.

    Thanks for the post!
  • MacBros · 2 years ago
    Well that just sucks now doesn't it?
    My whole reason for using Twitter was to get some linkage to my own sites.

    *Blowing off dust and cobwebs from the "I don't need you anymore vault" and throwing Twitter into the void of uselessness, move over "MyBlogLog"*
  • MacBros · 2 years ago
    Well that just sucks now doesn't it?
    My whole reason for using Twitter was to get some linkage to my own sites.

    *Blowing off dust and cobwebs from the "I don't need you anymore vault" and throwing Twitter into the void of uselessness, move over "MyBlogLog"*
  • Erin · 2 years ago
    Is there a Beginning Blogger's Guide to NoFollow that I can read to explain what this is? Thank-you.
  • Erin · 2 years ago
    Is there a Beginning Blogger's Guide to NoFollow that I can read to explain what this is? Thank-you.
  • Bodybuilding Forum · 2 years ago
    If every site(or most) removed nofollows then we would be back to square one and spam would be out of control. It is great though when some bloggers remove it. Most people flock to those sites that do that, just consider it as being in "the know".
  • Bodybuilding Forum · 2 years ago
    If every site(or most) removed nofollows then we would be back to square one and spam would be out of control. It is great though when some bloggers remove it. Most people flock to those sites that do that, just consider it as being in "the know".
  • Taree · 2 years ago
    NoFollow is handy within your own site to block just or "noise" pages that hold very little value, for instance i use rel-nofollow on my forums calendar.php as there's thousands of duplicate pages.

    However when you pull a Wikipedia and start basically saying, thanks for writing this article and providing content for our site now we are big and don't value your link or the extra subject matter you have.

    Dissapointing.
  • Taree · 2 years ago
    NoFollow is handy within your own site to block just or "noise" pages that hold very little value, for instance i use rel-nofollow on my forums calendar.php as there's thousands of duplicate pages.

    However when you pull a Wikipedia and start basically saying, thanks for writing this article and providing content for our site now we are big and don't value your link or the extra subject matter you have.

    Dissapointing.
  • Chris @ Teeth Whitening · 2 years ago
    I use twitter religiously, but not so much for marketing - I wasn't aware that it had much benefit to spammers as I receive most of my tweets via SMS, etc... Is it really so bad that they need to implement this at this point? or is this some kind of preemptive strike against something that hasn't happened yet?
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    People reciprocate invitations from people they don't know to extend their own reach.

    It is fairly easy to spot the people who have built up massive following, though not everyone is listed on Twitterholic now.
    http://www.twitterholic.com/
  • Chris @ Teeth Whitening · 2 years ago
    I use twitter religiously, but not so much for marketing - I wasn't aware that it had much benefit to spammers as I receive most of my tweets via SMS, etc... Is it really so bad that they need to implement this at this point? or is this some kind of preemptive strike against something that hasn't happened yet?
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    People reciprocate invitations from people they don't know to extend their own reach.

    It is fairly easy to spot the people who have built up massive following, though not everyone is listed on Twitterholic now.
    http://www.twitterholic.com/
  • Doug Heil · 2 years ago
    I'm not really sure what the big deal is with the SEO industry and nofollow. So what if a link is nofollow? Don't you all post in places because you want to "teach" others? Or do you simply post for your own self-interests? NOfollow was implemented by Google because a link leading from one site to another site should "only" count when the "owner" of the linking site is vouching/voting for "your" site because it has great content on the page or the site and the link is a good resource for the linking site's visitors. That's it. Period. Nothing more.

    Why does this extremely simple concept lost in our industry? I have NO idea. In my mind, ALL these social media sites should use the nofollow tag. By not doing so, the owners are risking "big-time" the possibility of linking to a bad neighborhood.

    So my question is; why does our industry always think about this link juice stuff when there is soooo many other high priority things they should be doing?

    I'm not getting the nofollow cry-babies, sorry.
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    Doug

    People have been touting for months that Twitter is an alternative to blogging.

    If I voted for your site in Twitter rather than writing a full blog post, you wouldn't gain any juice though maybe a little traffic.

    Twitter is still allowing indexing of the content, without counting external links. Links are part of the content yet it is being modified without specific consent, and I don't even think that was announced, it was just discovered.

    On the flip side, I have also written that Twitter might be a legal liability for any kind of business use, so it just becomes an IM.
  • Doug Heil · 2 years ago
    I'm not really sure what the big deal is with the SEO industry and nofollow. So what if a link is nofollow? Don't you all post in places because you want to "teach" others? Or do you simply post for your own self-interests? NOfollow was implemented by Google because a link leading from one site to another site should "only" count when the "owner" of the linking site is vouching/voting for "your" site because it has great content on the page or the site and the link is a good resource for the linking site's visitors. That's it. Period. Nothing more.

    Why does this extremely simple concept lost in our industry? I have NO idea. In my mind, ALL these social media sites should use the nofollow tag. By not doing so, the owners are risking "big-time" the possibility of linking to a bad neighborhood.

    So my question is; why does our industry always think about this link juice stuff when there is soooo many other high priority things they should be doing?

    I'm not getting the nofollow cry-babies, sorry.
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    Doug

    People have been touting for months that Twitter is an alternative to blogging.

    If I voted for your site in Twitter rather than writing a full blog post, you wouldn't gain any juice though maybe a little traffic.

    Twitter is still allowing indexing of the content, without counting external links. Links are part of the content yet it is being modified without specific consent, and I don't even think that was announced, it was just discovered.

    On the flip side, I have also written that Twitter might be a legal liability for any kind of business use, so it just becomes an IM.
  • Henri @ B2B Sales Blog · 2 years ago
    For me one of the major benefits of Twitter has been to extend my network and interact even more closely with readers of my blog and others. I've been able to sore the front pages of Dutch social news sites on occasion, just by people voting for articles I had linked to in a tweet in Twitter. So for me there is also a significant traffic benefit, like you also concluded at the end of your article. Too bad that we lose the "vote of editorial approval" as you call is.
  • Henri @ B2B Sales Blog · 2 years ago
    For me one of the major benefits of Twitter has been to extend my network and interact even more closely with readers of my blog and others. I've been able to sore the front pages of Dutch social news sites on occasion, just by people voting for articles I had linked to in a tweet in Twitter. So for me there is also a significant traffic benefit, like you also concluded at the end of your article. Too bad that we lose the "vote of editorial approval" as you call is.
  • lucia · 2 years ago
    Doug,
    Could you elaborate? What are the higher priority things the SEO community should be thinking about?
  • lucia · 2 years ago
    Doug,
    Could you elaborate? What are the higher priority things the SEO community should be thinking about?
  • Dennison Uy - Graphic Designer · 2 years ago
    Ok sorry if this is a bit old but how the hell do you post links in Twitter???
  • Dennison Uy - Graphic Designer · 2 years ago
    Ok sorry if this is a bit old but how the hell do you post links in Twitter???
  • Condom Man · 2 years ago
    I think we'll eventually get to the point where everyone uses nofollow and no one gives any juice to any one; an internet full of hermits. Nofollow is the antithesis of web 2.0.
  • Condom Man · 2 years ago
    I think we'll eventually get to the point where everyone uses nofollow and no one gives any juice to any one; an internet full of hermits. Nofollow is the antithesis of web 2.0.
  • Alex · 1 year ago
    It's a shame, there are a lot of methods to disable spam from comments, and links beside "No Follow", I really like technorati, now I'm going to test "Twitter", but I think I will not use it very often...

    Condom Man, that's it, nofollow =! web 2.0.

    Sorry for my english
    best regards
  • Alex · 1 year ago
    It's a shame, there are a lot of methods to disable spam from comments, and links beside "No Follow", I really like technorati, now I'm going to test "Twitter", but I think I will not use it very often...

    Condom Man, that's it, nofollow =! web 2.0.

    Sorry for my english
    best regards
  • Luiz Monografias · 1 year ago
    It's really a pity. I liked Twitter a lot and I stopped to use it after the nofollow stablishment. And I did the same with Wikipedia.

    If we think in the reasons of nofollow, it makes me nerve even more, due to the fact that only Google can gain and not anyone.

    The same with blogs. I own some to generate content and traffic and I wanted to dofollow it because I believe that this is a reward to the person that read my post and stopped by to say something.

    Of course I manage all my comments and this is the point that determine internet quality: personal control.

    Why nofollow every links if its so easy to flag a spam post, comment, hub, squidoo or others? I think that after you've written this excelent post we could see the results of Twitter's option: much less traffic, posts and comments.

    Spammers will always exist, with nofollow or dofollow.
  • Luiz Monografias · 1 year ago
    It's really a pity. I liked Twitter a lot and I stopped to use it after the nofollow stablishment. And I did the same with Wikipedia.

    If we think in the reasons of nofollow, it makes me nerve even more, due to the fact that only Google can gain and not anyone.

    The same with blogs. I own some to generate content and traffic and I wanted to dofollow it because I believe that this is a reward to the person that read my post and stopped by to say something.

    Of course I manage all my comments and this is the point that determine internet quality: personal control.

    Why nofollow every links if its so easy to flag a spam post, comment, hub, squidoo or others? I think that after you've written this excelent post we could see the results of Twitter's option: much less traffic, posts and comments.

    Spammers will always exist, with nofollow or dofollow.