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Andy Beard - Internet Business Systems Discussion: The Pied Piper Of PayPerPost?

  • Vlad · 2 years ago
    "The Chrunchies"- you just have to love this one. I wonder if Pornotube will be awarded? It has been covered quiet well on TechCrunch.

    I may have missed a lot during my vocation but whoever called you "Pied Piper" needs some serious help.
  • Vlad · 2 years ago
    "The Chrunchies"- you just have to love this one. I wonder if Pornotube will be awarded? It has been covered quiet well on TechCrunch.

    I may have missed a lot during my vocation but whoever called you "Pied Piper" needs some serious help.
  • Michael Woo · 2 years ago
    Hi there, I have been using PPP for close to a year now. Beginning of this year, I didn't have any problems, not only my blog's PR increased to PR3 and 4, I did loads of sponsored posts.

    After this quarter's update, I notice a drop in PR in 2 of my blogs. Another 1 participated in similar paid blogging opportunities except PPP did not share the same fate.

    I have mixed feeling over this paid opportunity and I believe that your article more or less cleared things up.

    On the other hand, I firmly believe that blogs should not be penalized by selling paid posts, links, etc... the one that should be penalized is the advertiser...
  • Vlad · 2 years ago
    I do not see how penalizing advertiser can help. If anything Google should be working on a way to rank relevantly websites without consideration if the link was paid for or not.

    I personally think this article raises some serious questions Google needs to address, hopefully sooner than later.

    The penalties were carried out in uneven and unjust manner. The entire fiasco will probably cost me $500 in November, and I am not talking about selling links or writing paid reviews, in fact I have terminated my accounts with PPP, ReviewMe, TLA and Sponsored Reviews.

    In fact I am planing to ban Googlebot from some of my websites as I write this.

    It is great to see PPP/Izea is to disregard PageRank altogether.
  • Robert MacEwan · 2 years ago
    After watching my PR6 move down to a PR3 after years of being a 6 it does feel as if we are being punished for PPP and the likes. Funny thing is that now I'm stuck with shit opportunities from PPP because I'm now a 3. Go figure. Argus needs to hurry.
  • Lincoln · 2 years ago
    It's nice that PPP had the foresight to drop their current metrics system, and I hope others learn to follow suit as well. Using PageRank for metrics not only made it appear that it was meant for advertisers to game Google, but it's absurd that a blogger should be precluded from doing a PPP post because his PR was a 5 instead of a 6.

    I hope I never see that "must have a minimum PageRank of X " crap on PPP again.
  • Michael Woo · 2 years ago
    Hi there, I have been using PPP for close to a year now. Beginning of this year, I didn't have any problems, not only my blog's PR increased to PR3 and 4, I did loads of sponsored posts.

    After this quarter's update, I notice a drop in PR in 2 of my blogs. Another 1 participated in similar paid blogging opportunities except PPP did not share the same fate.

    I have mixed feeling over this paid opportunity and I believe that your article more or less cleared things up.

    On the other hand, I firmly believe that blogs should not be penalized by selling paid posts, links, etc... the one that should be penalized is the advertiser...
  • Vlad · 2 years ago
    I do not see how penalizing advertiser can help. If anything Google should be working on a way to rank relevantly websites without consideration if the link was paid for or not.

    I personally think this article raises some serious questions Google needs to address, hopefully sooner than later.

    The penalties were carried out in uneven and unjust manner. The entire fiasco will probably cost me $500 in November, and I am not talking about selling links or writing paid reviews, in fact I have terminated my accounts with PPP, ReviewMe, TLA and Sponsored Reviews.

    In fact I am planing to ban Googlebot from some of my websites as I write this.

    It is great to see PPP/Izea is to disregard PageRank altogether.
  • Robert MacEwan · 2 years ago
    After watching my PR6 move down to a PR3 after years of being a 6 it does feel as if we are being punished for PPP and the likes. Funny thing is that now I'm stuck with shit opportunities from PPP because I'm now a 3. Go figure. Argus needs to hurry.
  • Lincoln · 2 years ago
    It's nice that PPP had the foresight to drop their current metrics system, and I hope others learn to follow suit as well. Using PageRank for metrics not only made it appear that it was meant for advertisers to game Google, but it's absurd that a blogger should be precluded from doing a PPP post because his PR was a 5 instead of a 6.

    I hope I never see that "must have a minimum PageRank of X " crap on PPP again.
  • Turk Hit Box · 2 years ago
    I guess I am going to be the first one to tell you guys:

    John Cow is hacked!
    http://www.turkhitbox.com/general/cow-is-hacked...
  • Turk Hit Box · 2 years ago
    I guess I am going to be the first one to tell you guys:

    John Cow is hacked!
    http://www.turkhitbox.com/general/cow-is-hacked...
  • Ted Murphy · 2 years ago
    Andy,
    Have you ever written a post that wasn't thorough and balanced in every way?? I get excited every time I see a post about PPP or IZEA on your blog because I know it is going to be a good read.

    I am excited about Argus as well. I wish you were going to be there to see the announcement in person. I can't wait to show everyone what we have been working so hard on.
  • Ted Murphy · 2 years ago
    Andy,
    Have you ever written a post that wasn't thorough and balanced in every way?? I get excited every time I see a post about PPP or IZEA on your blog because I know it is going to be a good read.

    I am excited about Argus as well. I wish you were going to be there to see the announcement in person. I can't wait to show everyone what we have been working so hard on.
  • Lincoln · 2 years ago
    My firm belief is that my readership is extremely mature and intelligent...

    We are?
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    Lincoln, just because you are a terrible singer doesn't make you stupid ;)
  • Lincoln · 2 years ago
    Dammit, and I took singing lessons too.
  • Lincoln · 2 years ago
    My firm belief is that my readership is extremely mature and intelligent...

    We are?
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    Lincoln, just because you are a terrible singer doesn't make you stupid ;)
  • Lincoln · 2 years ago
    Dammit, and I took singing lessons too.
  • Clement · 2 years ago
    I like the Argus initiative. It has all the potential to make it big :)
  • Clement · 2 years ago
    I like the Argus initiative. It has all the potential to make it big :)
  • Lincoln · 2 years ago
    I find it ironic that the concept of using metrics that accurately reflect your site's traffic and readership would be considered a novel idea. :-)
  • Lincoln · 2 years ago
    I find it ironic that the concept of using metrics that accurately reflect your site's traffic and readership would be considered a novel idea. :-)
  • Sam Freedoms Internet Marketin · 2 years ago
    Oh Andy, you gave me such a chuckle...

    My firm belief is that my readership is extremely mature and intelligent, and quite capable of making their own informed decisions.


    Ahhhhhhh hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaaaaaaa!!!!!!

    You are one of the best, most sincere guys I know in this online circus parade so it's forgivable that you'd make such a horrifying assumption.

    Stick to SEO and site metrics and leave the psychology and mind metrics to guys like Freud, Jung and Maslow.

    Also, while 99.99999% of what you write is dead on, and I'm really not trying to take a ratchet to you as I consider you an admirable acquaintance, I do want to address another point you made:

    How much can your blog actually stimulate discussion on other blogs, and in your own comments. This is a measure of influence.


    On other blogs, perhaps... but I've seen blogs mentioning other bloggers not due to intellectual sincerity but rather a petty desire to be associated with an A-list, in-crowd, blogger.

    I just saw S-a-ge Lew-is' video about La-ycock-s "I hated Twitter but now maybe that I stumbled upon a cool use for it, I can get a little more attention by saying I'm open about it now" post.

    Ok, so there's someone whose a blogger on a big tech site saying that she saw absolutely no use for Twitter and now that there's some little newsclip about a creative use for it, she's giving it a second chance... and Sa-ge's whole blog is a video raving about Lay-cocks revelation.

    And none of it holds a candle to the first 2 in my series of posts on data mining Twitter.

    It's almost always true that bloggers talk about other bloggers to maintain an "I belong" demeanor. You post so much good, original, well-written information that you don't need to mention other bloggers for the same reason.

    To me, the Lew-is Lay-cock interaction is just a perfect example of someone without a clue raving about someone else who is, quite possibly, starting to get a clue.

    Same with comment sections. When I see the comments on most blogs, I want to heave. There's like 80 comments all saying some version of "Great!" or nothing at all. I do encourage comments on my blog but you know my style, I discourage imbecility and respond to great questions with great answers.

    You are a brilliant, helpful person. I just think you over-estimate "the majority" and maybe have it juxtaposed with the minority.

    Happy Blogging,
    Sam
  • Sam Freedoms Internet Marketin · 2 years ago
    Oh Andy, you gave me such a chuckle...

    My firm belief is that my readership is extremely mature and intelligent, and quite capable of making their own informed decisions.


    Ahhhhhhh hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaaaaaaa!!!!!!

    You are one of the best, most sincere guys I know in this online circus parade so it's forgivable that you'd make such a horrifying assumption.

    Stick to SEO and site metrics and leave the psychology and mind metrics to guys like Freud, Jung and Maslow.

    Also, while 99.99999% of what you write is dead on, and I'm really not trying to take a ratchet to you as I consider you an admirable acquaintance, I do want to address another point you made:

    How much can your blog actually stimulate discussion on other blogs, and in your own comments. This is a measure of influence.


    On other blogs, perhaps... but I've seen blogs mentioning other bloggers not due to intellectual sincerity but rather a petty desire to be associated with an A-list, in-crowd, blogger.

    I just saw S-a-ge Lew-is' video about La-ycock-s "I hated Twitter but now maybe that I stumbled upon a cool use for it, I can get a little more attention by saying I'm open about it now" post.

    Ok, so there's someone whose a blogger on a big tech site saying that she saw absolutely no use for Twitter and now that there's some little newsclip about a creative use for it, she's giving it a second chance... and Sa-ge's whole blog is a video raving about Lay-cocks revelation.

    And none of it holds a candle to the first 2 in my series of posts on data mining Twitter.

    It's almost always true that bloggers talk about other bloggers to maintain an "I belong" demeanor. You post so much good, original, well-written information that you don't need to mention other bloggers for the same reason.

    To me, the Lew-is Lay-cock interaction is just a perfect example of someone without a clue raving about someone else who is, quite possibly, starting to get a clue.

    Same with comment sections. When I see the comments on most blogs, I want to heave. There's like 80 comments all saying some version of "Great!" or nothing at all. I do encourage comments on my blog but you know my style, I discourage imbecility and respond to great questions with great answers.

    You are a brilliant, helpful person. I just think you over-estimate "the majority" and maybe have it juxtaposed with the minority.

    Happy Blogging,
    Sam
  • Sam Freedoms Internet Marketin · 2 years ago
    ps. This did, however, just light a fire under my asz on a post I had started titled, "PayPerJoke, My First PayPerPost Review" - read it and weep. ;-)
  • Sam Freedoms Internet Marketin · 2 years ago
    ps. This did, however, just light a fire under my asz on a post I had started titled, "PayPerJoke, My First PayPerPost Review" - read it and weep. ;-)
  • thebassman · 2 years ago
    Thanks for the objective look at Izea/PPP. I've been an advertiser with them in the past (and probably again in the future). It's good to see some good posts about them after reading only crap on TechCrunch... :|
  • Tim L. Walker · 2 years ago
    Thanks for the objective look at Izea/PPP. I've been an advertiser with them in the past (and probably again in the future). It's good to see some good posts about them after reading only crap on TechCrunch... :|
  • Andy Walpole · 1 year ago
    PayPerPost is fine as long as that particular post is clearly identified as such...

    Trying to seamlessly blend a PayPerPost in with the rest of content is not acceptable...
  • Andy Walpole · 1 year ago
    PayPerPost is fine as long as that particular post is clearly identified as such...

    Trying to seamlessly blend a PayPerPost in with the rest of content is not acceptable...