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Tim Nash · 2 years ago

Thanks for the Links Andy, I really recommend using clcikheat and Google Analytics for tracking exactly what works and doesn't work on your site. A good example is advertising many people forget how ad blind Socialites (for want of a better term) are and therefore waste their prime spaces on pages with adverts that are not being seen. Instead that space could be better used providing more information or some other call to action.

One warning when heavily tracking sites, if you look like your reaching a popular page on sites its best to turn off any local tracking, as you will find your server load increased dramatically ;)

AndyBeard · 2 years ago

I can imagine

However I also know among my readers I have some who are probably more fanatical than even you are, and they are tracking "money pages" that receive far more traffic over a short period of time than even Digg can throw at them.

Adding a dedicated server just to run Clickheat isn't going to cause them any problems, if it means they can perform better testing.

What I intend to do once I actually start seeing significant traffic is to work out a way to have every page element controllable based upon referrer.

Tim Nash · 2 years ago

Thanks for the Links Andy, I really recommend using clcikheat and Google Analytics for tracking exactly what works and doesn't work on your site. A good example is advertising many people forget how ad blind Socialites (for want of a better term) are and therefore waste their prime spaces on pages with adverts that are not being seen. Instead that space could be better used providing more information or some other call to action.

One warning when heavily tracking sites, if you look like your reaching a popular page on sites its best to turn off any local tracking, as you will find your server load increased dramatically ;)

AndyBeard · 2 years ago

I can imagine

However I also know among my readers I have some who are probably more fanatical than even you are, and they are tracking "money pages" that receive far more traffic over a short period of time than even Digg can throw at them.

Adding a dedicated server just to run Clickheat isn't going to cause them any problems, if it means they can perform better testing.

What I intend to do once I actually start seeing significant traffic is to work out a way to have every page element controllable based upon referrer.

Maki · 2 years ago

Thanks for the mention, Andy!

I've signed up Pop Stumbler and am looking forward to trying it out. The signup process was terribly inconvenient and I wish they didn't bundle it alongside an opt-in newsletter although it'll be in their benefit to tap the StumbleUpon crowd.

I've read Tim's article, which does offer some useful information. He mentioned that StumbleUpon audiences are more likely to bookmark an article on Del.icio.us than Digg users, if I remember correctly..

Actually I think the reverse might be true. I'm a Stumble User and I rarely bookmark stuff on Del.icio.us because StumbleUpon itself is a bookmarking system, although it might not be as coherent or usable as Del.icio.us.

To me, Digg is the penultimate social media Midas. Frontpage items are always almost guaranteed heavy bookmarks, traffic, stumbles and most importantly.. links.

Maki · 2 years ago

Thanks for the mention, Andy!

I've signed up Pop Stumbler and am looking forward to trying it out. The signup process was terribly inconvenient and I wish they didn't bundle it alongside an opt-in newsletter although it'll be in their benefit to tap the StumbleUpon crowd.

I've read Tim's article, which does offer some useful information. He mentioned that StumbleUpon audiences are more likely to bookmark an article on Del.icio.us than Digg users, if I remember correctly..

Actually I think the reverse might be true. I'm a Stumble User and I rarely bookmark stuff on Del.icio.us because StumbleUpon itself is a bookmarking system, although it might not be as coherent or usable as Del.icio.us.

To me, Digg is the penultimate social media Midas. Frontpage items are always almost guaranteed heavy bookmarks, traffic, stumbles and most importantly.. links.

Tim Nash · 2 years ago

Bookmarking was one of the harder aspects to track, primarily because their are so many methods to bookmark a site, in many cases stumblers use their pages on stumbleupon as a bookmarking site. But from the stats more Stumblers bookmarked per 100 visitors then Diggers on almost every site. Their were a couple of exceptions but they were very technical programming site in which the reverse was true, but also the bookmarking rate was up significantly from the other sites.

Tim Nash · 2 years ago

Bookmarking was one of the harder aspects to track, primarily because their are so many methods to bookmark a site, in many cases stumblers use their pages on stumbleupon as a bookmarking site. But from the stats more Stumblers bookmarked per 100 visitors then Diggers on almost every site. Their were a couple of exceptions but they were very technical programming site in which the reverse was true, but also the bookmarking rate was up significantly from the other sites.

Dave · 2 years ago

Nice post. I had never thought of how to convert traffic from Digg before.

Dave · 2 years ago

Nice post. I had never thought of how to convert traffic from Digg before.

Scott · 2 years ago

Hey Andy

Just found your site through a link at Blog-Op.com. I enjoyed it very much and am adding it to my feeds.

Scott

Scott · 2 years ago

Hey Andy

Just found your site through a link at Blog-Op.com. I enjoyed it very much and am adding it to my feeds.

Scott

Byte of Technology · 2 years ago

Good tip on converting one time reader to regular visitor. Also, I never knew about Clickheat before...will definitely try that...

Byte of Technology · 2 years ago

Good tip on converting one time reader to regular visitor. Also, I never knew about Clickheat before...will definitely try that...

Cade · 2 years ago

That makes sense with converting the traffic from Digg. There seems to be many avenues out there that are just not tapped into. As far as the do-follow epidemic...how long do you think it will last and what do you think will happen to it?

AndyBeard · 2 years ago

THE SMO SMM guys really aren't tapping into the possibilities of converting traffic, because most are from an SEO background.
If you come from a marketing background, you are always looking to convert traffic better, because it costs you money, so hopefully we will see more content, and easy solutions, though I am not sure how easy it will be to integrate with wordpress sites running widgets.
As for dofollow, I will keep plugging away. Things took off that built a little awareness, but ultimately what is needed is information and community.
The memes added only a few 100 new supporters, when there were already 1000s, and didn't really help anyone because they only generated relevant links for terms no one is searching for.

Cade · 2 years ago

That makes sense with converting the traffic from Digg. There seems to be many avenues out there that are just not tapped into. As far as the do-follow epidemic...how long do you think it will last and what do you think will happen to it?

AndyBeard · 2 years ago

THE SMO SMM guys really aren't tapping into the possibilities of converting traffic, because most are from an SEO background.
If you come from a marketing background, you are always looking to convert traffic better, because it costs you money, so hopefully we will see more content, and easy solutions, though I am not sure how easy it will be to integrate with wordpress sites running widgets.
As for dofollow, I will keep plugging away. Things took off that built a little awareness, but ultimately what is needed is information and community.
The memes added only a few 100 new supporters, when there were already 1000s, and didn't really help anyone because they only generated relevant links for terms no one is searching for.

Liza · 2 years ago

Very nice post, thanks for the information.
Will try to implement it in my blog, hope it will help me to develop more traffic. even more that is :D

Liza · 2 years ago

Very nice post, thanks for the information.
Will try to implement it in my blog, hope it will help me to develop more traffic. even more that is :D

deborah · 2 years ago

Stumbled your Stumble post :-)

I haven't spent very much time on Stumble yet to learn the ins and outs, but you provided a very informative read.

Posts about Digg often make it to popular or home page, but I don't know enough of Stumble if it works the same there.

AndyBeard · 2 years ago

Thanks Deborah

I noticed some interesting traffic from StumbleUpon from one of the discussion areas that might constitute group thumbs down. I am actually not sue what effect a large number of thumbs down has on traffic.
I have a post about Digg just about to be published

deborah · 2 years ago

Stumbled your Stumble post :-)

I haven't spent very much time on Stumble yet to learn the ins and outs, but you provided a very informative read.

Posts about Digg often make it to popular or home page, but I don't know enough of Stumble if it works the same there.

AndyBeard · 2 years ago

Thanks Deborah

I noticed some interesting traffic from StumbleUpon from one of the discussion areas that might constitute group thumbs down. I am actually not sue what effect a large number of thumbs down has on traffic.
I have a post about Digg just about to be published

engtech · 2 years ago

Ah, popstumbler is so easily replaced by keyboard short-cuts though (I agree with your assessment that keyboard short-cuts scare the crap out of Average Joe).

Ctrl-` to stumble
Home top of page
End bottom of page
Ctrl-W close tab
etc

engtech · 2 years ago

Ah, popstumbler is so easily replaced by keyboard short-cuts though (I agree with your assessment that keyboard short-cuts scare the crap out of Average Joe).

Ctrl-` to stumble
Home top of page
End bottom of page
Ctrl-W close tab
etc