I just don't understand the shotgun approach. Do people think people in the community don't talk?
And that's not even addressing the issue of the image licenses for those themes...
Alex Goad
· 2 years ago
Isn't it widely accepted that you must have a reputation before people can set out to detroy it?
Alex Goad
· 2 years ago
Isn't it widely accepted that you must have a reputation before people can set out to detroy it?
RT Cunningham
· 2 years ago
I received the same spam. Knowing it wasn't the usual, I went and took a look. I'm with you, Andy. Everything this guy did was of dubious intent. I've blocked him off since then. I wonder if this guy realizes how much damage he did to his own future endeavors?
RT Cunningham
· 2 years ago
I received the same spam. Knowing it wasn't the usual, I went and took a look. I'm with you, Andy. Everything this guy did was of dubious intent. I've blocked him off since then. I wonder if this guy realizes how much damage he did to his own future endeavors?
David Culpepper
· 2 years ago
He must really be getting around... I got hit with the same spam. Of course he started the comment with "i do not want to spam your blog". lol
David Culpepper
· 2 years ago
He must really be getting around... I got hit with the same spam. Of course he started the comment with "i do not want to spam your blog". lol
Michael VanDeMar
· 2 years ago
I emailed them, suggesting that they might want to reply here and on SEO Refugee, will be interesting to see what happens.
Michael VanDeMar
· 2 years ago
I emailed them, suggesting that they might want to reply here and on SEO Refugee, will be interesting to see what happens.
CVOS Netpaths
· 2 years ago
Wait how is this possible, Bill Gates declared spam would end in 2006
Isn't that amazing - it must have been delayed a little to coincide with the release of Vista ;)
The stupid thing is there are so many ways for a professional SEO to build up their links just blogging with useful professional advise, they shouldn't need to spam links to ruin their reputation.
The problem is now that anyone who looks up the guys name in Google will most likely find this post in the first page of results.
Maybe I should also tag it slightly more so I have a few more potential landing pages.
CVOS Netpaths
· 2 years ago
Wait how is this possible, Bill Gates declared spam would end in 2006
Isn't that amazing - it must have been delayed a little to coincide with the release of Vista ;)
The stupid thing is there are so many ways for a professional SEO to build up their links just blogging with useful professional advise, they shouldn't need to spam links to ruin their reputation.
The problem is now that anyone who looks up the guys name in Google will most likely find this post in the first page of results.
Maybe I should also tag it slightly more so I have a few more potential landing pages.
robwatts
· 2 years ago
I'm feeling kinda left out, what's wrong with my blog? I only have a little math comment spam plugin thing. Most of the levetrah and fentamean guys have managed to get through :D
Daehee
· 2 years ago
I don't know the exact details of your issue, but even with a captcha or spam plugin like that, spammers can always override that with trackback spam.
rob watts
· 2 years ago
Hello Daehee
Seems my ironic sarcasm attempt fell below your radar :)
Yes agreed, spammers are resourceful little so and so's
robwatts
· 2 years ago
I'm feeling kinda left out, what's wrong with my blog? I only have a little math comment spam plugin thing. Most of the levetrah and fentamean guys have managed to get through :D
Daehee
· 2 years ago
I don't know the exact details of your issue, but even with a captcha or spam plugin like that, spammers can always override that with trackback spam.
rob watts
· 2 years ago
Hello Daehee
Seems my ironic sarcasm attempt fell below your radar :)
Yes agreed, spammers are resourceful little so and so's
Tim Nash
· 2 years ago
Ignoring the fact the guy is a spammer for a moment, and hypothetically he was the victim, you mentioned OpenID wouldn't work and I agree, but it certainly would be one part of the strategy I would use, along with ClaimID. A combined use of openID from a single server and ClaimID would at least separate the comments made by spammer and victim, along with an explanation open letter you could quite quickly get the message you had been done out. The bigger question would anyone believe you?
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
I don't think that would help Tim
If I wrote a comment on your blog, you would have that information available, and could use it anywhere else.
If someone was claiming to be me, I could ask if they were using a Polish IP address, because I write all my comments from a Polish IP address, but that isn't a 100% solution.
I could use a fixed IP address, but those are harder to come by, or more expensive - for large corporations that is an option, but not for your average blogger.
Tim Nash
· 2 years ago
Ignoring the fact the guy is a spammer for a moment, and hypothetically he was the victim, you mentioned OpenID wouldn't work and I agree, but it certainly would be one part of the strategy I would use, along with ClaimID. A combined use of openID from a single server and ClaimID would at least separate the comments made by spammer and victim, along with an explanation open letter you could quite quickly get the message you had been done out. The bigger question would anyone believe you?
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
I don't think that would help Tim
If I wrote a comment on your blog, you would have that information available, and could use it anywhere else.
If someone was claiming to be me, I could ask if they were using a Polish IP address, because I write all my comments from a Polish IP address, but that isn't a 100% solution.
I could use a fixed IP address, but those are harder to come by, or more expensive - for large corporations that is an option, but not for your average blogger.
Andy Beard
· 2 years ago
Hey Andy, This isn't really you. It's really me, James D. Kirk from boldlygoing.com. Just checking to see whether or not I can manually add a comment to your site, but look like someone else (you in this case, since I know you won't ban me for life for this little "experiment"!)
You commented on reputation management in your post. Whomever the true culprit is might also want to take some copy writing classes or read a book or two, or even attend a Dan Kennedy seminar.
The very fist line of that post/comment, "Please try to view and download our new..."
Well, that sort of ambiguous language is not the sort of hard hitting action words I would want to use in a legitimate effort to evoke some sort of desired response from someone. "Please try"? As our friend and mascot, Yoda would say, "Do or do not. Do not try."!!!
James D Kirk
· 2 years ago
In this post I had inserted a "disclaimer" at the bottom of the post box but made the mistake of using brackets "" to encase it. Andy's site removed those brackets and the disclaimer text. It basically said that I was not affiliated with Andy's site, and that while I have a bit of a professional relationship with Andy, chatting on IM and posting back and forth between our two sites, I would never comment like this except on this particular post. If this offends someones sensibilities, please accept my sincere apologies in advance! Thanks.
Andy Beard
· 2 years ago
Hey Andy, This isn't really you. It's really me, James D. Kirk from boldlygoing.com. Just checking to see whether or not I can manually add a comment to your site, but look like someone else (you in this case, since I know you won't ban me for life for this little "experiment"!)
You commented on reputation management in your post. Whomever the true culprit is might also want to take some copy writing classes or read a book or two, or even attend a Dan Kennedy seminar.
The very fist line of that post/comment, "Please try to view and download our new..."
Well, that sort of ambiguous language is not the sort of hard hitting action words I would want to use in a legitimate effort to evoke some sort of desired response from someone. "Please try"? As our friend and mascot, Yoda would say, "Do or do not. Do not try."!!!
James D Kirk
· 2 years ago
In this post I had inserted a "disclaimer" at the bottom of the post box but made the mistake of using brackets "" to encase it. Andy's site removed those brackets and the disclaimer text. It basically said that I was not affiliated with Andy's site, and that while I have a bit of a professional relationship with Andy, chatting on IM and posting back and forth between our two sites, I would never comment like this except on this particular post. If this offends someones sensibilities, please accept my sincere apologies in advance! Thanks.
Jonathan
· 2 years ago
Hi guys,
Sorry about that one. My bad. Sam is still fairly new to the SEO field so he tends to want to do things all the way to achieve top rankings by tomorrow. ;-)
I did ask him to start promoting our 2 new wordpress themes but did not give him specific instruction on exactly how to do it (or in this case, not to do it). Thanks for alerting me about it by sending me an email.
Jadehat
· 2 years ago
Sadly, road to hell is paved with good intentions, as saying goes. Now with your reputation is hit by Sam's actions, you will have to work much harder to restore it.
Jonathan
· 2 years ago
Hi guys,
Sorry about that one. My bad. Sam is still fairly new to the SEO field so he tends to want to do things all the way to achieve top rankings by tomorrow. ;-)
I did ask him to start promoting our 2 new wordpress themes but did not give him specific instruction on exactly how to do it (or in this case, not to do it). Thanks for alerting me about it by sending me an email.
Jadehat
· 2 years ago
Sadly, road to hell is paved with good intentions, as saying goes. Now with your reputation is hit by Sam's actions, you will have to work much harder to restore it.
Michael VanDeMar
· 2 years ago
This isn't really you. It's really me, James D. Kirk from boldlygoing.com.
Interesting to note the Mybloglog icon being automatically spoofed as well. I mean, the way it works it has to, since it is merely driven by the username and has no authentication involved, but still. Having someones avatar, especially if it happens to be their face, next to the post only increases the impression that it is actually coming from that person.
Doesn't even have to be deliberate, either. If a non MBL member just happened to use the same username as some MBL member on a blog running the code, then the Mybloglog members avatar would show.
Michael VanDeMar
· 2 years ago
This isn't really you. It's really me, James D. Kirk from boldlygoing.com.
Interesting to note the Mybloglog icon being automatically spoofed as well. I mean, the way it works it has to, since it is merely driven by the username and has no authentication involved, but still. Having someones avatar, especially if it happens to be their face, next to the post only increases the impression that it is actually coming from that person.
Doesn't even have to be deliberate, either. If a non MBL member just happened to use the same username as some MBL member on a blog running the code, then the Mybloglog members avatar would show.
Chris
· 2 years ago
That comment spoofing thing is a little scary.
Maybe I should pay someone to start leaving thoughtful and interesting comments all over the web using my details ;-)
Or stupid ones using someone elses :twisted:
Chris
· 2 years ago
That comment spoofing thing is a little scary.
Maybe I should pay someone to start leaving thoughtful and interesting comments all over the web using my details ;-)
Or stupid ones using someone elses :twisted:
Make Money Blogging
· 2 years ago
I actually met this Sam guy. He came in for a job interview for an SEO position were I am currently working (in the Philippines). What a small world.
Make Money Blogging
· 2 years ago
I actually met this Sam guy. He came in for a job interview for an SEO position were I am currently working (in the Philippines). What a small world.
Lucia
· 2 years ago
I feel left out too! Sam didn't hit my blogs. (It's either that or my spamfilters caught him and I never noticed.)
Lucia
· 2 years ago
I feel left out too! Sam didn't hit my blogs. (It's either that or my spamfilters caught him and I never noticed.)
Ronn
· 2 years ago
Hey Andy,
Way to call this guy out. Nice to see that Jonathan stepped up with an apology but was the damage already done?
Managing an online reputation is obviously a crucial business practice to focus on.
Looks like Sam may need a new pair of glasses and/or a new career.
Ronn
· 2 years ago
Hey Andy,
Way to call this guy out. Nice to see that Jonathan stepped up with an apology but was the damage already done?
Managing an online reputation is obviously a crucial business practice to focus on.
Looks like Sam may need a new pair of glasses and/or a new career.
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I got the same spam, and I am fairly well removed from SEO as a subject matter.
I do not get it at all. He has to be smarter than this, doesn't he?
I got the same spam, and I am fairly well removed from SEO as a subject matter.
I do not get it at all. He has to be smarter than this, doesn't he?
http://www.seorefugee.com/forums/showthread.php?p=59563
I just don't understand the shotgun approach. Do people think people in the community don't talk?
And that's not even addressing the issue of the image licenses for those themes...
http://www.seorefugee.com/forums/showthread.php?p=59563
I just don't understand the shotgun approach. Do people think people in the community don't talk?
And that's not even addressing the issue of the image licenses for those themes...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/24/tech/...
The stupid thing is there are so many ways for a professional SEO to build up their links just blogging with useful professional advise, they shouldn't need to spam links to ruin their reputation.
The problem is now that anyone who looks up the guys name in Google will most likely find this post in the first page of results.
Maybe I should also tag it slightly more so I have a few more potential landing pages.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/24/tech/...
The stupid thing is there are so many ways for a professional SEO to build up their links just blogging with useful professional advise, they shouldn't need to spam links to ruin their reputation.
The problem is now that anyone who looks up the guys name in Google will most likely find this post in the first page of results.
Maybe I should also tag it slightly more so I have a few more potential landing pages.
Seems my ironic sarcasm attempt fell below your radar :)
Yes agreed, spammers are resourceful little so and so's
Seems my ironic sarcasm attempt fell below your radar :)
Yes agreed, spammers are resourceful little so and so's
If I wrote a comment on your blog, you would have that information available, and could use it anywhere else.
If someone was claiming to be me, I could ask if they were using a Polish IP address, because I write all my comments from a Polish IP address, but that isn't a 100% solution.
I could use a fixed IP address, but those are harder to come by, or more expensive - for large corporations that is an option, but not for your average blogger.
If I wrote a comment on your blog, you would have that information available, and could use it anywhere else.
If someone was claiming to be me, I could ask if they were using a Polish IP address, because I write all my comments from a Polish IP address, but that isn't a 100% solution.
I could use a fixed IP address, but those are harder to come by, or more expensive - for large corporations that is an option, but not for your average blogger.
This isn't really you. It's really me, James D. Kirk from boldlygoing.com. Just checking to see whether or not I can manually add a comment to your site, but look like someone else (you in this case, since I know you won't ban me for life for this little "experiment"!)
You commented on reputation management in your post. Whomever the true culprit is might also want to take some copy writing classes or read a book or two, or even attend a Dan Kennedy seminar.
The very fist line of that post/comment, "Please try to view and download our new..."
Well, that sort of ambiguous language is not the sort of hard hitting action words I would want to use in a legitimate effort to evoke some sort of desired response from someone. "Please try"? As our friend and mascot, Yoda would say, "Do or do not. Do not try."!!!
This isn't really you. It's really me, James D. Kirk from boldlygoing.com. Just checking to see whether or not I can manually add a comment to your site, but look like someone else (you in this case, since I know you won't ban me for life for this little "experiment"!)
You commented on reputation management in your post. Whomever the true culprit is might also want to take some copy writing classes or read a book or two, or even attend a Dan Kennedy seminar.
The very fist line of that post/comment, "Please try to view and download our new..."
Well, that sort of ambiguous language is not the sort of hard hitting action words I would want to use in a legitimate effort to evoke some sort of desired response from someone. "Please try"? As our friend and mascot, Yoda would say, "Do or do not. Do not try."!!!
Sorry about that one. My bad. Sam is still fairly new to the SEO field so he tends to want to do things all the way to achieve top rankings by tomorrow. ;-)
I did ask him to start promoting our 2 new wordpress themes but did not give him specific instruction on exactly how to do it (or in this case, not to do it). Thanks for alerting me about it by sending me an email.
Sorry about that one. My bad. Sam is still fairly new to the SEO field so he tends to want to do things all the way to achieve top rankings by tomorrow. ;-)
I did ask him to start promoting our 2 new wordpress themes but did not give him specific instruction on exactly how to do it (or in this case, not to do it). Thanks for alerting me about it by sending me an email.
Interesting to note the Mybloglog icon being automatically spoofed as well. I mean, the way it works it has to, since it is merely driven by the username and has no authentication involved, but still. Having someones avatar, especially if it happens to be their face, next to the post only increases the impression that it is actually coming from that person.
Doesn't even have to be deliberate, either. If a non MBL member just happened to use the same username as some MBL member on a blog running the code, then the Mybloglog members avatar would show.
Interesting to note the Mybloglog icon being automatically spoofed as well. I mean, the way it works it has to, since it is merely driven by the username and has no authentication involved, but still. Having someones avatar, especially if it happens to be their face, next to the post only increases the impression that it is actually coming from that person.
Doesn't even have to be deliberate, either. If a non MBL member just happened to use the same username as some MBL member on a blog running the code, then the Mybloglog members avatar would show.
Maybe I should pay someone to start leaving thoughtful and interesting comments all over the web using my details ;-)
Or stupid ones using someone elses :twisted:
Maybe I should pay someone to start leaving thoughtful and interesting comments all over the web using my details ;-)
Or stupid ones using someone elses :twisted:
Way to call this guy out. Nice to see that Jonathan stepped up with an apology but was the damage already done?
Managing an online reputation is obviously a crucial business practice to focus on.
Looks like Sam may need a new pair of glasses and/or a new career.
Way to call this guy out. Nice to see that Jonathan stepped up with an apology but was the damage already done?
Managing an online reputation is obviously a crucial business practice to focus on.
Looks like Sam may need a new pair of glasses and/or a new career.