Andy Beard - Internet Business Systems Discussion - Latest Comments in Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

AndyBeard — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:01:52 -0000

That was a 2 year old post before the Google crackdown in October 2007 - I would advise not to buy or sell links in the current climate for/on any site you are not willing to burn.

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

Marketing Consultant — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:44:41 -0000

Interesting post, I haven't bought any links yet and I am climbing quite well organically. I may need to start buying links for more competitive terms, but I am not prepared to put any money in until my organic improvements start to tail off.

I would think that the better quality and relevant your website is, the lower price of a link that can be negotiated. Do you agree from your experience?

Regards

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

AndyBeard — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:18:54 -0000

Dmitry - you sneaky Russians are hiding all the link spamming tools from the rest of us ;)

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

AndyBeard — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:18:54 -0000

Dmitry - you sneaky Russians are hiding all the link spamming tools from the rest of us ;)

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

Dmitry HT — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:11:42 -0000

Using SAPE and XAP systems you can get in 3 times more paid links!
Yours

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

Dmitry HT — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:11:42 -0000

Using SAPE and XAP systems you can get in 3 times more paid links!
Yours

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

Doug Heil — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:03:20 -0000

LOL

It's amazing to me how the "majority" of people/firms in this entire industry seem to not have a clue, or are being extremely naive.

Sorry; but the true hurts guys/gals.

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

Doug Heil — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:03:20 -0000

LOL

It's amazing to me how the "majority" of people/firms in this entire industry seem to not have a clue, or are being extremely naive.

Sorry; but the true hurts guys/gals.

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

Todd Garland — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:47:42 -0000

some awesome points here that I hadn't come across/thought of. buying paid links isn't cheap. in my experience, 9 times out of 10 the business needs to buy those links to get to the top and they actually do belong high up in the search results. Many times it is to get in front of spammy or irrelevant sites who have been able to leverage the PR of their base URL...

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

Todd Garland — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:47:42 -0000

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

Monkey SEO — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:28:58 -0000

great points all around.

you got me thinking...i work at a company that does web design and seo. whenever we design a new site we always add something along the lines of "web design by" w/ link back to our company site in the footer. i never even considered that could possibly be interpreted as paid links. though we don't pay them for the link, rather they pay us for the site and in turn we place a link on it. it's a win win for us of course, but there is money being exchanged none the less.

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

Monkey SEO — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:28:58 -0000

great points all around.

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

Ari Shohat — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:44:54 -0000

Andy, thanks for another great post, always a pleasure to read them. There is hardly anything more I could add as you covered it so well.

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

Ari Shohat — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:44:54 -0000

Andy, thanks for another great post, always a pleasure to read them. There is hardly anything more I could add as you covered it so well.

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

George — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:50:05 -0000

Andy,

Great post. I totally agree with you.

I think Google needs to change their Search algorithm soon, or they are going to be left in the dust by the next "breakthrough" way of organizing and finding great content. Using links to determine the relevancy of web pages is WAY to easy to manipulate even without paid links.

Paid links aren't the problem, they just cut into Google's bottom line.

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

George — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:50:05 -0000

Andy,

Great post. I totally agree with you.

Paid links aren't the problem, they just cut into Google's bottom line.

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

Josh Spaulding — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:11:45 -0000

"that should happen regardless of whether a link is paid for or not"

Exactly!! We can submit our links to web directories, which effects search engine rankings, for free but we can sell advertising space on our pages??

What they are saying makes since but it turns into a double standard from hell!

What you said about purchasing links in the Yahoo directory is also a great point.

I know for a fact Google gives alot of "link juice" to those links.

And then, similar to my first paragraph, theres dmoz, which google uses for their own directory. They have editors that moderate the links and these editors aren't employees of Google. I've seen some TRASH links in dmoz. All they had to do was submit their site and theres a high PR link that Google gives alot of "juice." How is that any different than paying for a link? other than the fact that it was FREE.

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

Josh Spaulding — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:11:45 -0000

"that should happen regardless of whether a link is paid for or not"

Exactly!! We can submit our links to web directories, which effects search engine rankings, for free but we can sell advertising space on our pages??

What they are saying makes since but it turns into a double standard from hell!

What you said about purchasing links in the Yahoo directory is also a great point.

I know for a fact Google gives alot of "link juice" to those links.

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

lucia — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:54:52 -0000

I absolutely agree. In fact, I first learned of companies buying whole blogs to accumulate links when a porn site bought a feminist blog for the link juice. The blog had many, many deep links. Morever, because the blog topics included sexual violence, gay rights and other topics, the deep links often contained specific search terms porn sites find valuable.

Intrestingly, every link to the feminist blog would be was and still is editorial in nature and was granted without any monetary reward.

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

lucia — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:54:52 -0000

Intrestingly, every link to the feminist blog would be was and still is editorial in nature and was granted without any monetary reward.

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

Patrick Gavin — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:04:16 -0000

Andy, well written, completely agree with your point on how many links out in "nature" are actually paid links by larger companies.

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

Patrick Gavin — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:04:16 -0000

Andy, well written, completely agree with your point on how many links out in "nature" are actually paid links by larger companies.

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

CrayonWeb — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 07:25:31 -0000

Thanks for the info! I hope people will continue to benefit from it!

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

CrayonWeb — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 07:25:31 -0000

Thanks for the info! I hope people will continue to benefit from it!

Re: Paid Links & Reviews Are Necessary For Relevant Results

AndyBeard — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 06:46:48 -0000

I think it will be Yahoo, MSN or maybe even Ask... or Google preventing one of them buying PPP.

Best match would be Microsoft. Then they will just run $20-$50 ops to write about Microsoft new products, and maybe supply samples. I have discussed that possibility a few times.

The only negative is that PPP with their most recent cash injection raised the purchase price bar a fair bit higher.