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Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

Pete Dennery — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:59:58 -0000

Is the site really closed?

As of a few minutes ago, typing in the main site URL redirects to this page "http://optinaccelerator.com...."
The payment button is live and leads to paydotcom for $147 payment.

Makes me wonder...

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

Pete Dennery — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:59:58 -0000

Is the site really closed?

As of a few minutes ago, typing in the main site URL redirects to this page "http://optinaccelerator.com...."
The payment button is live and leads to paydotcom for $147 payment.

Makes me wonder...

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

Tom Brownsword — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:04:32 -0000

Czesc Andy,

Thanks for this great post. I'm a certified computer security pro and was not really aware of this. I have some more research to do now.

While you alluded to it in your post, Google is now trying to get people to work from one consolidated account for all of their services, so if you give out your password for Google Mail (not allowed to use the other word in Europe, remember? :) ), you've given out the password to everybody.

Besides, I have hundreds of contacts in my Gmail account; why would I want to send silly emails to everybody in it?

Thanks again, and keep up the good work.

Best regards,
Tom Brownsword, CISSPÂ®

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

Tom Brownsword — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:04:32 -0000

Czesc Andy,

Thanks for this great post. I'm a certified computer security pro and was not really aware of this. I have some more research to do now.

Besides, I have hundreds of contacts in my Gmail account; why would I want to send silly emails to everybody in it?

Thanks again, and keep up the good work.

Best regards,
Tom Brownsword, CISSPÂ®

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

Chris Lockwood — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:08:04 -0000

This makes me wonder how big sites like MySpace or Facebook get away with using this technique- if it's wrong for the little guys to use, why is it OK for those big companies?

Personally I never fill out TAF forms- if I want to let friends know about something I tell them directly, since they may not want me giving out their info.

Of course that doesn't mean other people feel the same way, but I still have to question how useful these new "subscribers" are when they didn't sign up directly.

Most people's address book is likely to have a lot of people who don't share every interest.

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

lockwood — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:08:04 -0000

This makes me wonder how big sites like MySpace or Facebook get away with using this technique- if it's wrong for the little guys to use, why is it OK for those big companies?

Personally I never fill out TAF forms- if I want to let friends know about something I tell them directly, since they may not want me giving out their info.

Of course that doesn't mean other people feel the same way, but I still have to question how useful these new "subscribers" are when they didn't sign up directly.

Most people's address book is likely to have a lot of people who don't share every interest.

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

Bonnie — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:04:24 -0000

Andy,

I don't believe they closed doors for good -- they just filled their membership to capacity.

FACT: They were only accepting a set amount of members and when they reached that point, they closed the doors to prevent flooding the marketplace.

Take another look at that HTML page, it even tells you to add your name to the list if you want to be notified when it's brought back onto the market.

Meaning... when somebody drops from their membership, they will have more room. Sad, but true.

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

Bonnie — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:04:24 -0000

Andy,

I don't believe they closed doors for good -- they just filled their membership to capacity.

FACT: They were only accepting a set amount of members and when they reached that point, they closed the doors to prevent flooding the marketplace.

Take another look at that HTML page, it even tells you to add your name to the list if you want to be notified when it's brought back onto the market.

Meaning... when somebody drops from their membership, they will have more room. Sad, but true.

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

achmad dardiri — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:02:22 -0000

Hi Andy,
I am desparate to know more about Email marketing, but in an ethical way. I dont want people coming to my hard written blog just for the heck of few points.

Please help me...
http://handofbusiness.blogs...

http://robot-age.blogspot.com

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

achmad dardiri — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:02:22 -0000

Hi Andy,
I am desparate to know more about Email marketing, but in an ethical way. I dont want people coming to my hard written blog just for the heck of few points.

Please help me...
http://handofbusiness.blogs...

http://robot-age.blogspot.com

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

igorthetroll — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:59:52 -0000

Andy, I have been editing Wikipedia for 9 months now. Recently I have been blocked and now undergoing mediation process on my talk page. If you want to see the inner working of Wikipedia I welcome you to come take a look at Wikipedia.

I think it will be a very interesting experience and will shed some light on the Dark Side of Wikipedia.

If you or your guest have advice as to Wikipedia and would like to share it with me and the other guests of my blog please post it on my blog.
http://www.igorthetroll.com...

Thank you,
Igor

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

igorthetroll — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:59:52 -0000

I think it will be a very interesting experience and will shed some light on the Dark Side of Wikipedia.

If you or your guest have advice as to Wikipedia and would like to share it with me and the other guests of my blog please post it on my blog.
http://www.igorthetroll.com...

Thank you,
Igor

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

Ami | Affiliate Marketing Tips — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:43:38 -0000

Thanks Andy for the heads up
I personally don't use opt in generator

I really believe that the opt in list is most effective when your prospects actually 'opt in' to your list.

Scrapping emails from your in box and such tactics is bound to result in a whole bunch of unopened emails

And the honest truth is 'at what stage does it become spam?'

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

Ami — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:43:38 -0000

Thanks Andy for the heads up
I personally don't use opt in generator

I really believe that the opt in list is most effective when your prospects actually 'opt in' to your list.

Scrapping emails from your in box and such tactics is bound to result in a whole bunch of unopened emails

And the honest truth is 'at what stage does it become spam?'

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

Hustlermoney — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:19:49 -0000

I don't like this Optin Accelerator. It seems like it would do more harm than good. Better be safe than sorry.

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

Hustlermoney — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:19:49 -0000

I don't like this Optin Accelerator. It seems like it would do more harm than good. Better be safe than sorry.

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

Not John Chow — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:06:48 -0000

I agree that you should do your own dirty work. If you do not feel comfortable emailing something to a friend, then don't pawn it off on a 3rd party.

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

notjohnchow — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:06:48 -0000

I agree that you should do your own dirty work. If you do not feel comfortable emailing something to a friend, then don't pawn it off on a 3rd party.

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

Bobby Whataman Jackson — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:39:33 -0000

I'm just getting into blogging and driving traffic to affliate links, so any information is new to me. And is appreciated!

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

Bobby Whataman Jackson — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:39:33 -0000

I'm just getting into blogging and driving traffic to affliate links, so any information is new to me. And is appreciated!

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

Craze — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:47:50 -0000

Hi Andy,
I am desparate to know more about Email marketing, but in an ethical way. I dont want people coming to my hard written blog just for the heck of few points.

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

Craze — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:47:50 -0000

Hi Andy,
I am desparate to know more about Email marketing, but in an ethical way. I dont want people coming to my hard written blog just for the heck of few points.

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

johnfurst — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:06:48 -0000

I never would share any of my account data with any third party service. Not a big Web2.0 platform nor an unknown provider.

Your notion about that this referred traffic will be most likely not targeted is a very good one.

Regards to AWeber: After having correspondence with AWeber support about a specific tell-a-friend service (TAF) I got the subjective impression, one can do much more with AWeber, IF one is a very profitable affiliate of theirs (more than the published terms allow). That's all I can tell as an outsider.

Thanks for your post.

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

johnfurst — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:06:48 -0000

I never would share any of my account data with any third party service. Not a big Web2.0 platform nor an unknown provider.

Your notion about that this referred traffic will be most likely not targeted is a very good one.

Thanks for your post.

Re: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

David — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:13:19 -0000

I am glad optin - accelerator closed. It was a very risky business model and I dont like my email address being imported all over the place.

I setup a special email address just for Linkedin. And in that email address I get non stop invitation from Linkedin members for to join other social networks using a the optin - accelerator system grrh....