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Andy Beard - Internet Business Systems Discussion: Optin Accelerator Closed – Too Risky?

  • Jason · 1 year ago
    Oh how I pine for the good ole days before this blog was 50% sales talk.

    Please bring back the quality content and lose the salesmanship.
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    Jason this blog has always been a mixed bag of stuff that is interesting to various people trying to "earn a crust" from what they are doing online.

    I should actually cover more email marketing related topics.

    I should also repeat at least once per day that people shouldn't give their Google account details to 3rd parties.
  • Craze · 1 year ago
    Hi Andy,
    I am desparate to know more about Email marketing, but in an ethical way. I dont want people coming to my hard written blog just for the heck of few points.
  • Jason · 1 year ago
    Oh how I pine for the good ole days before this blog was 50% sales talk.

    Please bring back the quality content and lose the salesmanship.
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    Jason this blog has always been a mixed bag of stuff that is interesting to various people trying to "earn a crust" from what they are doing online.

    I should actually cover more email marketing related topics.

    I should also repeat at least once per day that people shouldn't give their Google account details to 3rd parties.
  • Craze · 1 year ago
    Hi Andy,
    I am desparate to know more about Email marketing, but in an ethical way. I dont want people coming to my hard written blog just for the heck of few points.
  • Seduction Chronicles · 1 year ago
    Don't subscribe to Aweber. I just got burned by them. If any of you guys are interested you can read my reasoning and what happened here.

    Good post Andy.
  • Aaron at FullTIltMarriage.com · 1 year ago
    I've worked with both Aweber and GetResponse. Aweber has higher deliverability and better customer service in my experience.

    The problem you had with Aweber is you were, as you mention in your article, promoting sexually related content. You make the point your images were not hosted on Aweber's servers, etc.

    What you fail to realize is the potential damage to ALL Aweber users and to the company itself if ISP's receive too many complaints about adult content.

    Aweber may not be a good choice for you, but they are the best choice for most of us.
  • Seduction Chronicles · 1 year ago
    Don't subscribe to Aweber. I just got burned by them. If any of you guys are interested you can read my reasoning and what happened here.

    Good post Andy.
  • Aaron at FullTIltMarriage.com · 1 year ago
    I've worked with both Aweber and GetResponse. Aweber has higher deliverability and better customer service in my experience.

    The problem you had with Aweber is you were, as you mention in your article, promoting sexually related content. You make the point your images were not hosted on Aweber's servers, etc.

    What you fail to realize is the potential damage to ALL Aweber users and to the company itself if ISP's receive too many complaints about adult content.

    Aweber may not be a good choice for you, but they are the best choice for most of us.
  • morgan · 1 year ago
    Call me old fashioned, but I kinda like the idea that if you know people, and they are people you email anyway, that you can tell them yourself about your posts. Are you trying to make a profit? Sure. Are you selling yourself? What not. However, I don't think that you need to farm out those services to someone else -- that really takes the personal touch outta blogging. Blogs have always been a nice mix of sales and information, but the one thing that has always kept them pure was that they are talking with people by people. If we lose that personal touch, then it's like any other conglomerate hodgepodge of worthlessness.
  • notjohnchow · 1 year ago
    I agree that you should do your own dirty work. If you do not feel comfortable emailing something to a friend, then don't pawn it off on a 3rd party.
  • morgan · 1 year ago
    Call me old fashioned, but I kinda like the idea that if you know people, and they are people you email anyway, that you can tell them yourself about your posts. Are you trying to make a profit? Sure. Are you selling yourself? What not. However, I don't think that you need to farm out those services to someone else -- that really takes the personal touch outta blogging. Blogs have always been a nice mix of sales and information, but the one thing that has always kept them pure was that they are talking with people by people. If we lose that personal touch, then it's like any other conglomerate hodgepodge of worthlessness.
  • Not John Chow · 1 year ago
    I agree that you should do your own dirty work. If you do not feel comfortable emailing something to a friend, then don't pawn it off on a 3rd party.
  • Dennis Edell · 1 year ago
    So tellafriends are useless?
  • Dennis Edell · 1 year ago
    So tellafriends are useless?
  • Norma Marshall · 1 year ago
    I've used Aweber for years. Have never had a problem :)
  • Norma Marshall · 1 year ago
    I've used Aweber for years. Have never had a problem :)
  • Rob · 1 year ago
    It's pretty common sense not to give your login details to a third party. I don't really see how many people can argue with that contention (especially when, as Andy says, you're handing over so much mor ethan just an email address).
  • Rob · 1 year ago
    It's pretty common sense not to give your login details to a third party. I don't really see how many people can argue with that contention (especially when, as Andy says, you're handing over so much mor ethan just an email address).
  • David · 1 year ago
    I am glad optin - accelerator closed. It was a very risky business model and I dont like my email address being imported all over the place.

    I setup a special email address just for Linkedin. And in that email address I get non stop invitation from Linkedin members for to join other social networks using a the optin - accelerator system grrh....
  • David · 1 year ago
    I am glad optin - accelerator closed. It was a very risky business model and I dont like my email address being imported all over the place.

    I setup a special email address just for Linkedin. And in that email address I get non stop invitation from Linkedin members for to join other social networks using a the optin - accelerator system grrh....
  • John W. Furst · 1 year ago
    I never would share any of my account data with any third party service. Not a big Web2.0 platform nor an unknown provider.

    Your notion about that this referred traffic will be most likely not targeted is a very good one.

    Regards to AWeber: After having correspondence with AWeber support about a specific tell-a-friend service (TAF) I got the subjective impression, one can do much more with AWeber, IF one is a very profitable affiliate of theirs (more than the published terms allow). That's all I can tell as an outsider.

    Thanks for your post.
  • John W. Furst · 1 year ago
    I never would share any of my account data with any third party service. Not a big Web2.0 platform nor an unknown provider.

    Your notion about that this referred traffic will be most likely not targeted is a very good one.

    Regards to AWeber: After having correspondence with AWeber support about a specific tell-a-friend service (TAF) I got the subjective impression, one can do much more with AWeber, IF one is a very profitable affiliate of theirs (more than the published terms allow). That's all I can tell as an outsider.

    Thanks for your post.
  • Bobby Whataman Jackson · 1 year ago
    I'm just getting into blogging and driving traffic to affliate links, so any information is new to me. And is appreciated!
  • Bobby Whataman Jackson · 1 year ago
    I'm just getting into blogging and driving traffic to affliate links, so any information is new to me. And is appreciated!
  • Hustlermoney · 1 year ago
    I don't like this Optin Accelerator. It seems like it would do more harm than good. Better be safe than sorry.
  • Hustlermoney · 1 year ago
    I don't like this Optin Accelerator. It seems like it would do more harm than good. Better be safe than sorry.
  • Ami · 1 year ago
    Thanks Andy for the heads up
    I personally don't use opt in generator

    I really believe that the opt in list is most effective when your prospects actually 'opt in' to your list.

    Scrapping emails from your in box and such tactics is bound to result in a whole bunch of unopened emails

    And the honest truth is 'at what stage does it become spam?'
  • Ami | Affiliate Marketing Tips · 1 year ago
    Thanks Andy for the heads up
    I personally don't use opt in generator

    I really believe that the opt in list is most effective when your prospects actually 'opt in' to your list.

    Scrapping emails from your in box and such tactics is bound to result in a whole bunch of unopened emails

    And the honest truth is 'at what stage does it become spam?'
  • igorthetroll · 1 year ago
    Andy, I have been editing Wikipedia for 9 months now. Recently I have been blocked and now undergoing mediation process on my talk page. If you want to see the inner working of Wikipedia I welcome you to come take a look at Wikipedia.

    I think it will be a very interesting experience and will shed some light on the Dark Side of Wikipedia.

    If you or your guest have advice as to Wikipedia and would like to share it with me and the other guests of my blog please post it on my blog.
    http://www.igorthetroll.com/blog/wikipedia-igor...

    Thank you,
    Igor
  • igorthetroll · 1 year ago
    Andy, I have been editing Wikipedia for 9 months now. Recently I have been blocked and now undergoing mediation process on my talk page. If you want to see the inner working of Wikipedia I welcome you to come take a look at Wikipedia.

    I think it will be a very interesting experience and will shed some light on the Dark Side of Wikipedia.

    If you or your guest have advice as to Wikipedia and would like to share it with me and the other guests of my blog please post it on my blog.
    http://www.igorthetroll.com/blog/wikipedia-igor...

    Thank you,
    Igor
  • achmad dardiri · 1 year ago
    Hi Andy,
    I am desparate to know more about Email marketing, but in an ethical way. I dont want people coming to my hard written blog just for the heck of few points.

    Please help me...
    http://handofbusiness.blogspot.com

    http://robot-age.blogspot.com
  • achmad dardiri · 1 year ago
    Hi Andy,
    I am desparate to know more about Email marketing, but in an ethical way. I dont want people coming to my hard written blog just for the heck of few points.

    Please help me...
    http://handofbusiness.blogspot.com

    http://robot-age.blogspot.com
  • Bonnie · 1 year ago
    Andy,

    I don't believe they closed doors for good -- they just filled their membership to capacity.

    FACT: They were only accepting a set amount of members and when they reached that point, they closed the doors to prevent flooding the marketplace.

    Take another look at that HTML page, it even tells you to add your name to the list if you want to be notified when it's brought back onto the market.

    Meaning... when somebody drops from their membership, they will have more room. Sad, but true.
  • Bonnie · 1 year ago
    Andy,

    I don't believe they closed doors for good -- they just filled their membership to capacity.

    FACT: They were only accepting a set amount of members and when they reached that point, they closed the doors to prevent flooding the marketplace.

    Take another look at that HTML page, it even tells you to add your name to the list if you want to be notified when it's brought back onto the market.

    Meaning... when somebody drops from their membership, they will have more room. Sad, but true.
  • lockwood · 1 year ago
    This makes me wonder how big sites like MySpace or Facebook get away with using this technique- if it's wrong for the little guys to use, why is it OK for those big companies?

    Personally I never fill out TAF forms- if I want to let friends know about something I tell them directly, since they may not want me giving out their info.

    Of course that doesn't mean other people feel the same way, but I still have to question how useful these new "subscribers" are when they didn't sign up directly.

    Most people's address book is likely to have a lot of people who don't share every interest.
  • Chris Lockwood · 1 year ago
    This makes me wonder how big sites like MySpace or Facebook get away with using this technique- if it's wrong for the little guys to use, why is it OK for those big companies?

    Personally I never fill out TAF forms- if I want to let friends know about something I tell them directly, since they may not want me giving out their info.

    Of course that doesn't mean other people feel the same way, but I still have to question how useful these new "subscribers" are when they didn't sign up directly.

    Most people's address book is likely to have a lot of people who don't share every interest.
  • Tom Brownsword · 1 year ago
    Czesc Andy,

    Thanks for this great post. I'm a certified computer security pro and was not really aware of this. I have some more research to do now.

    While you alluded to it in your post, Google is now trying to get people to work from one consolidated account for all of their services, so if you give out your password for Google Mail (not allowed to use the other word in Europe, remember? :) ), you've given out the password to everybody.

    Besides, I have hundreds of contacts in my Gmail account; why would I want to send silly emails to everybody in it?

    Thanks again, and keep up the good work.

    Best regards,
    Tom Brownsword, CISSP®
  • Tom Brownsword · 1 year ago
    Czesc Andy,

    Thanks for this great post. I'm a certified computer security pro and was not really aware of this. I have some more research to do now.

    While you alluded to it in your post, Google is now trying to get people to work from one consolidated account for all of their services, so if you give out your password for Google Mail (not allowed to use the other word in Europe, remember? :) ), you've given out the password to everybody.

    Besides, I have hundreds of contacts in my Gmail account; why would I want to send silly emails to everybody in it?

    Thanks again, and keep up the good work.

    Best regards,
    Tom Brownsword, CISSP®
  • Pete Dennery · 1 year ago
    Is the site really closed?

    As of a few minutes ago, typing in the main site URL redirects to this page "http://optinaccelerator.com/launched.htm."
    The payment button is live and leads to paydotcom for $147 payment.

    Makes me wonder...
  • Pete Dennery · 1 year ago
    Is the site really closed?

    As of a few minutes ago, typing in the main site URL redirects to this page "http://optinaccelerator.com/launched.htm."
    The payment button is live and leads to paydotcom for $147 payment.

    Makes me wonder...