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Andy Beard - Internet Business Systems Discussion: New WordPress SEO Blogging Software

  • James - DigitalKeyToInfo · 1 year ago
    It's hard to beat free. Still, I am not sure I would want to use these.
    It sounds from your post like the SEO is not any better than some of the other SEO themes. Why not just place your favorite plugins in the folder before FTP? Permalinks, ping list, and plugin activation only take seconds anyway.
    I can see where someone just starting out might be helped, but I think anyone who has created more than one WP blog and done anything would not find anything you listed here as that much of a time saver. Maybe the product launch will have things that would make it more useful?
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    The time saving is in the basic setup

    You can use other SEOed themes, but 90% that claim to be aren't very special - these at least are fairly well done other than the links at the bottom.

    How much time you save really depends on how many WP blogs you are creating.
  • David · 1 year ago
    I really don't know if promoting such products is in your best interest. Anything that includes any hint of "spamminess" should be given a thumbs down.

    I am talking about the spam links you mentioned in the themes.
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    Well for a few years I promoted Wordpress when it was full of spam links... hmm in fact it still is.

    I also still link to people who promote WordPress themes mainly for the SEO benefit. As an example it wouldn't prevent me linking to Performancing ;)

    Actually the whole package actually has less "live" links with unmodified themes than many Performancing themes, 2 within the default blogroll (less than normal Wordpess) and a banner, where there happens to be instructional content.

    At the end of the day, the links in the themes are the ones placed there by theme authors, or the ones that fixed them to be more SEO friendly, and Jeff has nofollowed them.

    What theme authors should be doing is fixing their themes, and then approaching Jeff to include their themes in his package.
    How many theme authors use nofollow on their designer credit links?
  • James - DigitalKeyToInfo · 1 year ago
    It's hard to beat free. Still, I am not sure I would want to use these.
    It sounds from your post like the SEO is not any better than some of the other SEO themes. Why not just place your favorite plugins in the folder before FTP? Permalinks, ping list, and plugin activation only take seconds anyway.
    I can see where someone just starting out might be helped, but I think anyone who has created more than one WP blog and done anything would not find anything you listed here as that much of a time saver. Maybe the product launch will have things that would make it more useful?
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    The time saving is in the basic setup

    You can use other SEOed themes, but 90% that claim to be aren't very special - these at least are fairly well done other than the links at the bottom.

    How much time you save really depends on how many WP blogs you are creating.
  • David · 1 year ago
    I really don't know if promoting such products is in your best interest. Anything that includes any hint of "spamminess" should be given a thumbs down.

    I am talking about the spam links you mentioned in the themes.
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    Well for a few years I promoted Wordpress when it was full of spam links... hmm in fact it still is.

    I also still link to people who promote WordPress themes mainly for the SEO benefit. As an example it wouldn't prevent me linking to Performancing ;)

    Actually the whole package actually has less "live" links with unmodified themes than many Performancing themes, 2 within the default blogroll (less than normal Wordpess) and a banner, where there happens to be instructional content.

    At the end of the day, the links in the themes are the ones placed there by theme authors, or the ones that fixed them to be more SEO friendly, and Jeff has nofollowed them.

    What theme authors should be doing is fixing their themes, and then approaching Jeff to include their themes in his package.
    How many theme authors use nofollow on their designer credit links?
  • Increase Website Traffic · 1 year ago
    Thanks for this post. I had a disappointing experience with a WordPress installer type package in the past, so I'll have to try this one out.

    I'm curious though about your issues with Pingoat. I've been using it successfully for months to speed up indexing and promote RSS feeds for Squidoo, blogs, and so on. There are a number of fairly high profile marketers that have been recommending its use, and in my testing and that of other people whom I've suggested it to, it has worked well.

    Ben Mack did a live conference call a while back, and using Pingoat, the Google alerts showed up in my inbox within minutes. In my experience, a large number of tools in the blogging and Web 2.0 world don't work right about half the time, but Pingoat has worked well enough for me to keep using it.

    -Kurt Schmitt
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    Kurt I have emailed John to see if he can shed some light on this. I am just going by the official blog on Pingoat.
    Maybe you are using Pingoat manually. That works fine, but using Pingoat as a remote ping server to relay updates as far as I am currently aware doesn't work, so including the service in Ping lists in WordPress is both pointless and spammy.
  • Increase Website Traffic · 1 year ago
    Andy,

    You are correct! And yes, manual does work fine. The RPC link, however, actually refers you to ipings.com, with a message that they are "optimizing" things.

    Interestingly, the Pingoat RPC link is on Rosalind and Anik's list, which has begun to circulate.

    Another thing is that some of these aggregators are probably doubling up on the secondary sites they ping, so some of these ping lists are probably already a bit spammy. You can mitigate the effect to some degree by using the MaxBlogPress plugin (at least in theory) since it won't ping the heck out of your list when you edit.

    Thanks!

    Kurt
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    Despite the fact that I know Rosalind reads my blog on occasion and I also read hers, I didn't mention Blog Classroom in a post.
    Part of it was because of a slight lack of confidence in the information, despite the fact I know both Rosalind and Anik make a huge amount of money and are incredible teachers.
    Ultimately the decision made was that they didn't quite match my audience.

    The lack of confidence wasn't so much the ping list, that is one of those self-propagating myths that seems to spread (at least in my opinion)

    It is really hard for me to recommend blogging packages, because I am likely to find holes in all of them
  • Increase Website Traffic · 1 year ago
    Thanks for this post. I had a disappointing experience with a WordPress installer type package in the past, so I'll have to try this one out.

    I'm curious though about your issues with Pingoat. I've been using it successfully for months to speed up indexing and promote RSS feeds for Squidoo, blogs, and so on. There are a number of fairly high profile marketers that have been recommending its use, and in my testing and that of other people whom I've suggested it to, it has worked well.

    Ben Mack did a live conference call a while back, and using Pingoat, the Google alerts showed up in my inbox within minutes. In my experience, a large number of tools in the blogging and Web 2.0 world don't work right about half the time, but Pingoat has worked well enough for me to keep using it.

    -Kurt Schmitt
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    Kurt I have emailed John to see if he can shed some light on this. I am just going by the official blog on Pingoat.
    Maybe you are using Pingoat manually. That works fine, but using Pingoat as a remote ping server to relay updates as far as I am currently aware doesn't work, so including the service in Ping lists in WordPress is both pointless and spammy.
  • Increase Website Traffic · 1 year ago
    Andy,

    You are correct! And yes, manual does work fine. The RPC link, however, actually refers you to ipings.com, with a message that they are "optimizing" things.

    Interestingly, the Pingoat RPC link is on Rosalind and Anik's list, which has begun to circulate.

    Another thing is that some of these aggregators are probably doubling up on the secondary sites they ping, so some of these ping lists are probably already a bit spammy. You can mitigate the effect to some degree by using the MaxBlogPress plugin (at least in theory) since it won't ping the heck out of your list when you edit.

    Thanks!

    Kurt
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    Despite the fact that I know Rosalind reads my blog on occasion and I also read hers, I didn't mention Blog Classroom in a post.
    Part of it was because of a slight lack of confidence in the information, despite the fact I know both Rosalind and Anik make a huge amount of money and are incredible teachers.
    Ultimately the decision made was that they didn't quite match my audience.

    The lack of confidence wasn't so much the ping list, that is one of those self-propagating myths that seems to spread (at least in my opinion)

    It is really hard for me to recommend blogging packages, because I am likely to find holes in all of them
  • Abhishek · 1 year ago
    Well i haven't tried it yet !!
    soon review it back after i try it out !!
    any ways thanks for that info!!
  • Abhishek · 1 year ago
    Well i haven't tried it yet !!
    soon review it back after i try it out !!
    any ways thanks for that info!!
  • Damien · 1 year ago
    I think a lot of people who read my blog would like to go self-hosted WP but lack the know-how or the time or both. Now I can recommend this free preconfigured WP script to them. Great post.
  • Damien · 1 year ago
    I think a lot of people who read my blog would like to go self-hosted WP but lack the know-how or the time or both. Now I can recommend this free preconfigured WP script to them. Great post.
  • Rachel · 1 year ago
    I am kind of a noob at all of this. I am not ashamed to admit it. I haven't updated wordpress to the new version yet because I am not sure what it will do to all my plugins and what not. I read the article and I am trying to wrap my brain around it lol. I guess though my question is if I do update will I have to reinstall all my plugins? I have heard some bad things about the wordpress update which is why I have stalled on installing it.
    Just wanted to know what your thoughts were?
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    If you are using the same plugins as Jeff, then after you switch them off to do the installation, it might mess up your settings. The same will be true of permalinks.

    If you have everything (both database and the files on you server) you can't do anything wrong - you can always restore everything.

    This installation and all the additional training is for people looking to run multiple blogs. If you are just running a single blog, you might as well just use a standard Wordpress installation.
  • Rachel · 1 year ago
    I am kind of a noob at all of this. I am not ashamed to admit it. I haven't updated wordpress to the new version yet because I am not sure what it will do to all my plugins and what not. I read the article and I am trying to wrap my brain around it lol. I guess though my question is if I do update will I have to reinstall all my plugins? I have heard some bad things about the wordpress update which is why I have stalled on installing it.
    Just wanted to know what your thoughts were?
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    If you are using the same plugins as Jeff, then after you switch them off to do the installation, it might mess up your settings. The same will be true of permalinks.

    If you have everything (both database and the files on you server) you can't do anything wrong - you can always restore everything.

    This installation and all the additional training is for people looking to run multiple blogs. If you are just running a single blog, you might as well just use a standard Wordpress installation.
  • Mark · 1 year ago
    Thanks for the tip and recommendation. Your post points out both the flaws and benefits and has made me look into using this script further.
  • Mark · 1 year ago
    Thanks for the tip and recommendation. Your post points out both the flaws and benefits and has made me look into using this script further.
  • SEO Service Guy · 1 year ago
    and then stick 5 spammy links in the footer to various pages on their domain, many seem to be paid client blogs.


    Funny, ain't that black hat SEO? Anyways I love free so I am off to download!
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    You would think it would be, but then WordPress used to use tons of similar spammy links in the default blogroll, and even now there are lots of links in the default blogroll which whilst easy to remove, many don't.
  • SEO Service Guy · 1 year ago
    and then stick 5 spammy links in the footer to various pages on their domain, many seem to be paid client blogs.


    Funny, ain't that black hat SEO? Anyways I love free so I am off to download!
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    You would think it would be, but then WordPress used to use tons of similar spammy links in the default blogroll, and even now there are lots of links in the default blogroll which whilst easy to remove, many don't.
  • Noobpreneur · 1 year ago
    Hi Andy,

    Great update - The script will eventually help a wordpress blogger on how to better SEOed his/her blog.

    I only use All in One SEO pack - so far, so good.

    Cheers!
  • Noobpreneur · 1 year ago
    Hi Andy,

    Great update - The script will eventually help a wordpress blogger on how to better SEOed his/her blog.

    I only use All in One SEO pack - so far, so good.

    Cheers!
  • Monica Livingstone · 1 year ago
    Is it better than the All In One Seo Plugin for Wordpress?
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    It includes All In One SEO and other plugins which all get installed automatically
  • Monica Livingstone · 1 year ago
    Is it better than the All In One Seo Plugin for Wordpress?
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    It includes All In One SEO and other plugins which all get installed automatically
  • Megapixels · 1 year ago
    If I have a wordpress setup I like, I usually do all the configuration (plugins, ping lists etc), and make sure there are no posts, comments or links I don't want. Then, I do a SQL export, and a FTP download of all the files. Then, whenever I want to duplicate that site, it's a simple FTP, run the install script, and then import the SQL file into the database. Pretty simple, and a lot less work.
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    That is a good alternative for doing this as well, though I have known a few plugins that get royally messed up due to poor coding and for some reason including a hard path within the SQL.
  • Megapixels · 1 year ago
    If I have a wordpress setup I like, I usually do all the configuration (plugins, ping lists etc), and make sure there are no posts, comments or links I don't want. Then, I do a SQL export, and a FTP download of all the files. Then, whenever I want to duplicate that site, it's a simple FTP, run the install script, and then import the SQL file into the database. Pretty simple, and a lot less work.
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    That is a good alternative for doing this as well, though I have known a few plugins that get royally messed up due to poor coding and for some reason including a hard path within the SQL.
  • Michael · 1 year ago
    I use many plugins for my wordpess, for SEO it's All in One SEO pack but. More trouble than just having it installed costs me to use it to the fullest. Plugin not used is not needed - so I try to have only important plugins which i really use.
  • Michael · 1 year ago
    I use many plugins for my wordpess, for SEO it's All in One SEO pack but. More trouble than just having it installed costs me to use it to the fullest. Plugin not used is not needed - so I try to have only important plugins which i really use.
  • henry · 1 year ago
    Thanks for the tip and recommendation. Your post points out both the flaws and benefits and has made me look into using this script further.That is a good alternative for doing this as well, it includes All In One SEO and other plug ins which all get installed automatically.
  • henry · 1 year ago
    Thanks for the tip and recommendation. Your post points out both the flaws and benefits and has made me look into using this script further.That is a good alternative for doing this as well, it includes All In One SEO and other plug ins which all get installed automatically.
  • Startlogic Review · 1 year ago
    That sounds nice but do that one support the adsense? I don't think so,
  • Startlogic Review · 1 year ago
    That sounds nice but do that one support the adsense? I don't think so,
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    Good morning Andy,

    True I am allot more skilled that the average Wordpress user but I just worked off the default version that came with Wordpress and went form there.

    First off I replaced the title tag in header.php

    php if(is_home()) { echo 'HOME PAGE TITLE'; } else { wp_title('') ;}

    Just replace HOME PAGE TITLE with what you want on the homepage of your blog and it will add the title of the post to all your single pages and not reiterate your blog title.

    Then I replaced the blog post title with tags.

    Then when I write a post I put a subheadline at the top of the textarea with tags.

    Then as I break each section of the post with subheadlines I use tags with more primary and secondary keywords in them.

    Of course I sprinkle keywords throught the text.

    Also after following all the advice you wrote about how google ranks blogs I am doing much better in the results.

    Also I added a bunch of really powerful blogs to my blogroll and now I have deleted them all as a test to see if I move up or down.

    Can I suggest that you add propeller and searchles to your plugin, I love searchles and post most my bookmarks there.

    Cheers - Chris Lang
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    Good morning Andy,

    True I am allot more skilled that the average Wordpress user but I just worked off the default version that came with Wordpress and went form there.

    First off I replaced the title tag in header.php

    php if(is_home()) { echo 'HOME PAGE TITLE'; } else { wp_title('') ;}

    Just replace HOME PAGE TITLE with what you want on the homepage of your blog and it will add the title of the post to all your single pages and not reiterate your blog title.

    Then I replaced the blog post title with tags.

    Then when I write a post I put a subheadline at the top of the textarea with tags.

    Then as I break each section of the post with subheadlines I use tags with more primary and secondary keywords in them.

    Of course I sprinkle keywords throught the text.

    Also after following all the advice you wrote about how google ranks blogs I am doing much better in the results.

    Also I added a bunch of really powerful blogs to my blogroll and now I have deleted them all as a test to see if I move up or down.

    Can I suggest that you add propeller and searchles to your plugin, I love searchles and post most my bookmarks there.

    Cheers - Chris Lang
  • Andy T · 1 year ago
    I only use All-in-one SEO plug-in for SEO. So far, I got reasonable treatment of my blog from search engine. My blog content is not the type of high traffic content. I'm happy with it.
  • Andy T · 1 year ago
    I only use All-in-one SEO plug-in for SEO. So far, I got reasonable treatment of my blog from search engine. My blog content is not the type of high traffic content. I'm happy with it.
  • spokz · 1 year ago
    Thanks for the post, the package has helped me save a lot of free time.
  • spokz · 1 year ago
    Thanks for the post, the package has helped me save a lot of free time.