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Andy Beard - Internet Business Systems Discussion: Linking Mistakes Frequently Encountered On Blogs

  • Michael VanDeMar · 2 years ago
    Andy, what's worse about using the Google redirect URL is that they are doing the redirect via a 302 Found, instead of using the 301.

    HTTP/1.1 302 Found
    Cache-Control: private
    Location: http://andybeard.eu/2007/05/payperpost-direct-r...
    Set-Cookie: PREF=ID=a16edb3887e04d02: TM=1180812180:LM=1180812180:S=bQz48Rl5rKWf7Ixg; expires=Sun, 17-Jan-2038 19:14:07 GMT; path=/; domain=.google.com
    Content-Type: text/html
    Server: GWS/2.1
    Content-Length: 254
    Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 19:23:00 GMT


    I know, they claim they have fixed the 302 Hijack issue, but what would be the point of doing it the way that they are? If it's not a Permanent Redirect then what, are they planning on changing where that particular URL points to in the future...?
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    I think it is also part of their Malware protection so yes for some sites the redirect isn't direct and could change.

    In the SEO field there are certainly holes in my experience so I am not going to attempt to question the logic of this.

    It is much more interesting challenging the status quo on things like supplemental results and duplicate content ;)
  • Cornwall · 2 years ago
    It's so easy to take the short cut that it is easy to give in to temptation. I think I have tried every short cut possible in my day.

    But, it's not what works. Pure and simple.

    It's about developing an abundance mentality and realising there is enough to go around.
  • Cornwall · 2 years ago
    It's so easy to take the short cut that it is easy to give in to temptation. I think I have tried every short cut possible in my day.

    But, it's not what works. Pure and simple.

    It's about developing an abundance mentality and realising there is enough to go around.
  • affzan · 2 years ago
    I know exactly what you mean, Andy. The one thing I learnt was, always preview your post before submitting, and try clicking all the links that you provide in the post to see that it's working and not dead. Otherwise it will give a bad impression on people reading the post
  • affzan · 2 years ago
    I know exactly what you mean, Andy. The one thing I learnt was, always preview your post before submitting, and try clicking all the links that you provide in the post to see that it's working and not dead. Otherwise it will give a bad impression on people reading the post
  • HMTKSteve · 2 years ago
    I tried the Alexa redirect thing for a month and it does not work. I even did the "bad" thing of making an invisible iframe on my website that loaded a page via an Alexa redirect. No change.

    Using the redirect only lowers the amount of link juice you can get. It also makes you look low rent.
  • HMTKSteve · 2 years ago
    I tried the Alexa redirect thing for a month and it does not work. I even did the "bad" thing of making an invisible iframe on my website that loaded a page via an Alexa redirect. No change.

    Using the redirect only lowers the amount of link juice you can get. It also makes you look low rent.
  • Tinu · 2 years ago
    I have to agree with just about everything you said. Sometimes, for reasons other than laziness, I don't maximize the kind of link I give, as in the case when I have to choose between the amount of traffic a site will get from being linked, and the long term value. In that case, I'd rather make up for it the next time and give the best of both worlds.

    in general though, it's the basic rule of thumb - give the kind of link you'd like back. Sometimes the other person's title is absolutely the wrong group of words to use - which is also why I believe the title/headline of a post requires a lot of thought.
  • Tinu · 2 years ago
    I have to agree with just about everything you said. Sometimes, for reasons other than laziness, I don't maximize the kind of link I give, as in the case when I have to choose between the amount of traffic a site will get from being linked, and the long term value. In that case, I'd rather make up for it the next time and give the best of both worlds.

    in general though, it's the basic rule of thumb - give the kind of link you'd like back. Sometimes the other person's title is absolutely the wrong group of words to use - which is also why I believe the title/headline of a post requires a lot of thought.
  • Michael VanDeMar · 2 years ago
    Andy, what's worse about using the Google redirect URL is that they are doing the redirect via a 302 Found, instead of using the 301.

    HTTP/1.1 302 Found
    Cache-Control: private
    Location: http://andybeard.eu/2007/05/payperpost-direct-r...
    Set-Cookie: PREF=ID=a16edb3887e04d02: TM=1180812180:LM=1180812180:S=bQz48Rl5rKWf7Ixg; expires=Sun, 17-Jan-2038 19:14:07 GMT; path=/; domain=.google.com
    Content-Type: text/html
    Server: GWS/2.1
    Content-Length: 254
    Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 19:23:00 GMT


    I know, they claim they have fixed the 302 Hijack issue, but what would be the point of doing it the way that they are? If it's not a Permanent Redirect then what, are they planning on changing where that particular URL points to in the future...?
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    I think it is also part of their Malware protection so yes for some sites the redirect isn't direct and could change.

    In the SEO field there are certainly holes in my experience so I am not going to attempt to question the logic of this.

    It is much more interesting challenging the status quo on things like supplemental results and duplicate content ;)
  • Peter · 2 years ago
    Excellent post and points out that everyone trying to game various rankings is close to pointless. Do quality links with your niche and they usually come back to at some time. Quality comments will help obtain good links. Slow and steady builds a solid foundation. Enjoyed reading this one Andy
  • Peter · 2 years ago
    Excellent post and points out that everyone trying to game various rankings is close to pointless. Do quality links with your niche and they usually come back to at some time. Quality comments will help obtain good links. Slow and steady builds a solid foundation. Enjoyed reading this one Andy
  • Thomas · 2 years ago
    Andy, thanks for the good information. I have read a couple of your articles and found them to be informational and easy to read.

    I have had my blog for almost a year, but only in the last few weeks have I started to blog more seriously. The information that you give is very helpful in getting my blog started.

    I have subscribed to your blog, and look forward to future posts.
  • Thomas · 2 years ago
    Andy, thanks for the good information. I have read a couple of your articles and found them to be informational and easy to read.

    I have had my blog for almost a year, but only in the last few weeks have I started to blog more seriously. The information that you give is very helpful in getting my blog started.

    I have subscribed to your blog, and look forward to future posts.
  • Opal: Vegan Momma · 2 years ago
    Excellent post!

    I was skeptical about the Alexa Redirect I used it for a few days when commenting on a few other blogs and I found that my numbers slowed down considerably so I stopped using it.

    I've blogged for a little over two years and, like Thomas, I only have I started taking my blog seriously.

    I'm really enjoying your website.
  • Opal: Vegan Momma · 2 years ago
    Excellent post!

    I was skeptical about the Alexa Redirect I used it for a few days when commenting on a few other blogs and I found that my numbers slowed down considerably so I stopped using it.

    I've blogged for a little over two years and, like Thomas, I only have I started taking my blog seriously.

    I'm really enjoying your website.
  • Maria Palma · 2 years ago
    I enjoy the tips you've provided here. Link building is definitely key to getting more readers and traffic to your blog.

    I've been blogging for quite some time now, but just recently became obsessed with my page rank and creating backlinks to my blog. However, I've realized that in obsessing over links, my writing has suffered....so, I'm working on a happy medium ;)
  • Maria Palma · 2 years ago
    I enjoy the tips you've provided here. Link building is definitely key to getting more readers and traffic to your blog.

    I've been blogging for quite some time now, but just recently became obsessed with my page rank and creating backlinks to my blog. However, I've realized that in obsessing over links, my writing has suffered....so, I'm working on a happy medium ;)
  • Balú · 2 years ago
    The article is very interesting, congratulations. Good tips. However, it calls my attention the use of Google search results links, even when I don’t agree with the fact of "using them", it’s very interesting to know more about the topic. Tell me, have you made any experiment to see its importance?
  • Balú · 2 years ago
    The article is very interesting, congratulations. Good tips. However, it calls my attention the use of Google search results links, even when I don’t agree with the fact of "using them", it’s very interesting to know more about the topic. Tell me, have you made any experiment to see its importance?
  • David Airey :: Creative Design · 2 years ago
    I've come across quite a few links using an Alexa redirect and wondered if it was of any benefit. I've not tried myself, and wasn't about to. Good of you to write about it here.

    I've learnt a lot over the past few weeks about deep-linking and appreciate your posts a great deal. Cheers Andy.
  • David Airey :: Creative Design · 2 years ago
    I've come across quite a few links using an Alexa redirect and wondered if it was of any benefit. I've not tried myself, and wasn't about to. Good of you to write about it here.

    I've learnt a lot over the past few weeks about deep-linking and appreciate your posts a great deal. Cheers Andy.
  • El Yanqui · 2 years ago
    Glad I read this. I just got done reading another article that advises using Alexa redirects. Good info, thanks.
  • El Yanqui · 2 years ago
    Glad I read this. I just got done reading another article that advises using Alexa redirects. Good info, thanks.
  • Drew Stauffer · 2 years ago
    One nice thing about your blog is that in the comments you actually offer the ability to give out a HTML link. I don't see this on a lot of blogs, few and far between.

    What do you suggest we do when we want to add a link to a comments section of a blog that doesn't allow HTML?

    Are we stuck with this option?
    I wrote about it here, this is my link
    www.spammy-link-soon-to-be-deleted.com/reallypo...

    Or do we just go for the HTML link and hope it works? It's nice when the blog offers a preview post version before you actually post your comment so you can test it, but not all blogs incorporate that either.
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    Most people I know who publish a comments policy have nothing wrong with using an HTML link, and they work on most platforms.

    One of the reasons they work is because long hyperlinks can look very ugly.

    If you are allowing link, they might as well have nice looking anchor text.

    That being said, I delete comments that I deem to be overly promotional without "selling" me a reason why they are dropping the link.

    Whether buttons are displayed or not, you can still type the HTML for the link manually.

    You can even write after such a link (anchor text to preserve formatting) or something similar to add extra justification, especially for long links.
  • Drew Stauffer · 2 years ago
    One nice thing about your blog is that in the comments you actually offer the ability to give out a HTML link. I don't see this on a lot of blogs, few and far between.

    What do you suggest we do when we want to add a link to a comments section of a blog that doesn't allow HTML?

    Are we stuck with this option?
    I wrote about it here, this is my link
    www.spammy-link-soon-to-be-deleted.com/reallypo...

    Or do we just go for the HTML link and hope it works? It's nice when the blog offers a preview post version before you actually post your comment so you can test it, but not all blogs incorporate that either.
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    Most people I know who publish a comments policy have nothing wrong with using an HTML link, and they work on most platforms.

    One of the reasons they work is because long hyperlinks can look very ugly.

    If you are allowing link, they might as well have nice looking anchor text.

    That being said, I delete comments that I deem to be overly promotional without "selling" me a reason why they are dropping the link.

    Whether buttons are displayed or not, you can still type the HTML for the link manually.

    You can even write after such a link (anchor text to preserve formatting) or something similar to add extra justification, especially for long links.
  • Drew Stauffer · 2 years ago
    OK Perfect.

    I'll try and do a little experimenting with just adding the HTML in.

    Thanks Andy
  • Drew Stauffer · 2 years ago
    OK Perfect.

    I'll try and do a little experimenting with just adding the HTML in.

    Thanks Andy
  • Rob O. · 2 years ago
    I experimented around with Alexa redirects for a few weeks and even saw a teensy bump in my ranking there but eventually gave up on it. Sadly, I was using those redirects in blog comments & email footers... ::: Hangs head in shame :::

    Really, I came to wonder if Alexa ranking isn't kinda like infomercials hawking "collectable" Nascar plates - what makes them "collectable" is that someone declared them to be so.

    In other words, how much good does Alexa ranking do you anyway - or is it just some kind of a weak self-propagating hoax where we believe Alexa-originated hits to be important because, well, Alexa says they are? And since so many other bloggers have bought into the it, well, it must be true.

    I'd much rather employ deep-linking techniques - both in comments on others' blogs and in my own posts. This can really breath a little new life back into some older posts that never seemed to get the exposure I'd orginally hoped for.
  • Rob O. · 2 years ago
    I experimented around with Alexa redirects for a few weeks and even saw a teensy bump in my ranking there but eventually gave up on it. Sadly, I was using those redirects in blog comments & email footers... ::: Hangs head in shame :::

    Really, I came to wonder if Alexa ranking isn't kinda like infomercials hawking "collectable" Nascar plates - what makes them "collectable" is that someone declared them to be so.

    In other words, how much good does Alexa ranking do you anyway - or is it just some kind of a weak self-propagating hoax where we believe Alexa-originated hits to be important because, well, Alexa says they are? And since so many other bloggers have bought into the it, well, it must be true.

    I'd much rather employ deep-linking techniques - both in comments on others' blogs and in my own posts. This can really breath a little new life back into some older posts that never seemed to get the exposure I'd orginally hoped for.
  • Burke Jones · 2 years ago
    Thanks for the great tips. I will keep them in mind as I link to sites from my [Junk Spammy Squeeze page which breaks the comment policy] - I also just subscribed to your feed. Keep up the good work!
  • Burke Jones · 2 years ago
    Thanks for the great tips. I will keep them in mind as I link to sites from my [Junk Spammy Squeeze page which breaks the comment policy] - I also just subscribed to your feed. Keep up the good work!
  • Lorelle · 2 years ago
    One of the big link mistakes many make is not having their post title in a link, even on the single post view.

    1. It's a quick grab with a link copying utility like Firefox's CoLT (Copy Link) Extension to grab the link of the post title and paste it in your blog post for fast referencing.
    2. If the page is saved to the computer, it now has a permanent URL to get back to the original online version through the post title.
    3. If the page doesn't load right, refresh would work, but sometimes clicking the post title reloads it nice and lovely.

    Oh, there's more, but for those of us power bloggers, grabbing the post title off a multi-post view or single post view for copy and paste into our blog posts takes the tediousness out of writing out the link or putting it into a button/popup window, it's the most important reason. Let nothing get in the way of us blogging about your blog post. ;-)
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    Lorelle I will get that fixed, even if it is just for you - your links are golden.

    I do have the links available near the bottom of the pages in various easy to use forms, but not the post title on single pages.
  • Lorelle · 2 years ago
    One of the big link mistakes many make is not having their post title in a link, even on the single post view.

    1. It's a quick grab with a link copying utility like Firefox's CoLT (Copy Link) Extension to grab the link of the post title and paste it in your blog post for fast referencing.
    2. If the page is saved to the computer, it now has a permanent URL to get back to the original online version through the post title.
    3. If the page doesn't load right, refresh would work, but sometimes clicking the post title reloads it nice and lovely.

    Oh, there's more, but for those of us power bloggers, grabbing the post title off a multi-post view or single post view for copy and paste into our blog posts takes the tediousness out of writing out the link or putting it into a button/popup window, it's the most important reason. Let nothing get in the way of us blogging about your blog post. ;-)
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    Lorelle I will get that fixed, even if it is just for you - your links are golden.

    I do have the links available near the bottom of the pages in various easy to use forms, but not the post title on single pages.
  • WebGeek · 2 years ago
    Andy, thanks for writing this. These are great tips and I couldn't agree more. Your blog has some great info - you just got yourself another subscriber. Take care.
  • WebGeek · 2 years ago
    Andy, thanks for writing this. These are great tips and I couldn't agree more. Your blog has some great info - you just got yourself another subscriber. Take care.
  • deni2s · 2 years ago
    Nice article!
  • deni2s · 2 years ago
    Nice article!
  • lucia · 2 years ago
    I generally link to the top of a blog if I am discussing the blog in general but try to link to the article if I am linking the article. I usually try to use some sort of meaningful anchor text. (There are times I don't do so. For example, if I want to link 10 people who discussed something so readers can find that, I might just say something like "many bloggers are discussing 'x' (1,2,3...)" with the number as anchor text.

    I did this long before I learned of SEO. I tend to give proper links as a favor to readers.

    Admittedly, in the cases where I linked a blogger in a series of '1,2,3...', the blogger might wish I'd given them better anchor text, but the alternatives are to impede the flow of the text or to give out no links at all. I think my readers are likely to want to read the links and the bloggers would probably prefer the link with bad anchor text to no link, so I do sometimes do that.

    I also nofollow some links in posts; some web sites and blogs deserve that. :)
  • lucia · 2 years ago
    I generally link to the top of a blog if I am discussing the blog in general but try to link to the article if I am linking the article. I usually try to use some sort of meaningful anchor text. (There are times I don't do so. For example, if I want to link 10 people who discussed something so readers can find that, I might just say something like "many bloggers are discussing 'x' (1,2,3...)" with the number as anchor text.

    I did this long before I learned of SEO. I tend to give proper links as a favor to readers.

    Admittedly, in the cases where I linked a blogger in a series of '1,2,3...', the blogger might wish I'd given them better anchor text, but the alternatives are to impede the flow of the text or to give out no links at all. I think my readers are likely to want to read the links and the bloggers would probably prefer the link with bad anchor text to no link, so I do sometimes do that.

    I also nofollow some links in posts; some web sites and blogs deserve that. :)
  • Shawn · 2 years ago
    What I don't understand is why people use those horrible Google search generated links. I mean, I know why they do it, they're in a rush, just as you said, but still, there's so much to gain from actually going to the page and reading it! I like to create link posts about once a week to articles I found and think my readers might find interesting. You don't just slap a link in a post and hit publish. Why do you like it? Why do you recommend others read it? How has this linked article affected you? It helps readers gain trust and see the value in what you do if you explain things. Also, another good reason to click through, two words: Trackback. Ok, only 1 word, but sounds like 2 ;)
  • Shawn · 2 years ago
    What I don't understand is why people use those horrible Google search generated links. I mean, I know why they do it, they're in a rush, just as you said, but still, there's so much to gain from actually going to the page and reading it! I like to create link posts about once a week to articles I found and think my readers might find interesting. You don't just slap a link in a post and hit publish. Why do you like it? Why do you recommend others read it? How has this linked article affected you? It helps readers gain trust and see the value in what you do if you explain things. Also, another good reason to click through, two words: Trackback. Ok, only 1 word, but sounds like 2 ;)
  • Chino Yray · 2 years ago
    oh sh**

    I do some of those. Not the google linking though.
  • Chino Yray · 2 years ago
    oh sh**

    I do some of those. Not the google linking though.
  • K-IntheHouse · 2 years ago
    I have seen a lot of people link to the Feedburner redirect links for not wanting to click away from their feed reader to grab the actual post URL especially when the post in the feed doesn't have a Permalink in it.

    However, it is surprisingly easy to turn off Feedburner Redirects. Andy, I see you have that turned off but there are still a lot of bloggers who haven't made it easy for others to link to them.
  • K-IntheHouse · 2 years ago
    I have seen a lot of people link to the Feedburner redirect links for not wanting to click away from their feed reader to grab the actual post URL especially when the post in the feed doesn't have a Permalink in it.

    However, it is surprisingly easy to turn off Feedburner Redirects. Andy, I see you have that turned off but there are still a lot of bloggers who haven't made it easy for others to link to them.
  • Miami Web Design · 1 year ago
    Great post! I was hunting for references to help educate a client about the importance of her linking structure and this article had 9/10ths of what I was hoping to find for her.

    Definitely adding you to the feed reader. :)
  • Miami Web Design · 1 year ago
    Great post! I was hunting for references to help educate a client about the importance of her linking structure and this article had 9/10ths of what I was hoping to find for her.

    Definitely adding you to the feed reader. :)
  • Daniel · 1 year ago
    I must say I agree with everything you said in pretty much every single way. I guess it is really bad when you don't bother to actually go forward and get the most you can out of a link. You could get traffic and a lot of long term benefits. But for some reason it just clicks in with laziness and you don't bother to fix it at all even though you know you should.

    I also think it is best to give people the best link possible because what you give them will come back to you so if you want a good link you darn well better give them a good one. It is best to give a good title and message as that will help you the most and will give you the best return result. Take the lazy mindset out of your game and you'll be soaring.
  • Daniel · 1 year ago
    I must say I agree with everything you said in pretty much every single way. I guess it is really bad when you don't bother to actually go forward and get the most you can out of a link. You could get traffic and a lot of long term benefits. But for some reason it just clicks in with laziness and you don't bother to fix it at all even though you know you should.

    I also think it is best to give people the best link possible because what you give them will come back to you so if you want a good link you darn well better give them a good one. It is best to give a good title and message as that will help you the most and will give you the best return result. Take the lazy mindset out of your game and you'll be soaring.
  • Daniel · 1 year ago
    It's so accessible to booty the abbreviate cut that it is accessible to accord in to temptation. I anticipate I accept approved every abbreviate cut accessible in my day.

    But, it's not what works. Pure and simple.

    It's about developing an affluence mentality and realising there is abundant to go around.
  • Daniel · 1 year ago
    It's so accessible to booty the abbreviate cut that it is accessible to accord in to temptation. I anticipate I accept approved every abbreviate cut accessible in my day.

    But, it's not what works. Pure and simple.

    It's about developing an affluence mentality and realising there is abundant to go around.
  • Dave Doolin · 6 months ago
    Linking to comments:

    I'm not sure if I follow you exactly here.

    What I'm doing at the moment is citing comments from another post by the link to the comment.

    I plan on maintaining these links using Broken Link Checker WordPress plugin, delinking them if they disappear. (Or just removing the citation.)
  • AndyBeard · 6 months ago
    The problem is that on most blogs a link left in a comment, or even the default website link when filling out a form has a nofollow, and people copy the whole html, including rel="nofollow"
  • Dave Doolin · 6 months ago
    Ok, I see what you're saying. I'm doing something slightly different. Thanks!