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Andy Beard - Internet Business Systems Discussion: Google Sitelinks On A PR4 1 Year Old Domain

  • Wayne Smallman · 2 years ago
    Given that a PageRank 4 'blog gets a Sitelink is probably confusing to many — me included.

    More so if like your own, the included anchor text is more bizarre than ephemeral.

    Here's a theory, which sort of hinges on the recent PageRank update / debacle: maybe the Sitelink algorithm runs separately (at least to some extent) to PageRank?

    So if Dosh Dosh got a kickin' in the update (meaning the 'blog was previously PageRank 6 or higher), that might explain the Sitelink still being there.

    Of course, that's just a theory.

    Still, there's hope for everyone if PageRank 4 'blogs are on the radar...
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    Maki is a very solid PR6 and didn't receive a penalty.

    I now believe my penalty was possibly -2 and not just -1

    The 400 links might have kicked me into sitelinks territory, but was probably not enough to go from PR5 to PR6 with sitelinks.

    There seems to be lots of factors in sitelinks no one really knows about.
  • Wayne Smallman · 2 years ago
    Given that a PageRank 4 'blog gets a Sitelink is probably confusing to many — me included.

    More so if like your own, the included anchor text is more bizarre than ephemeral.

    Here's a theory, which sort of hinges on the recent PageRank update / debacle: maybe the Sitelink algorithm runs separately (at least to some extent) to PageRank?

    So if Dosh Dosh got a kickin' in the update (meaning the 'blog was previously PageRank 6 or higher), that might explain the Sitelink still being there.

    Of course, that's just a theory.

    Still, there's hope for everyone if PageRank 4 'blogs are on the radar...
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    Maki is a very solid PR6 and didn't receive a penalty.

    I now believe my penalty was possibly -2 and not just -1

    The 400 links might have kicked me into sitelinks territory, but was probably not enough to go from PR5 to PR6 with sitelinks.

    There seems to be lots of factors in sitelinks no one really knows about.
  • Wayne Smallman · 2 years ago
    "There seems to be lots of factors in sitelinks no one really knows about."

    Evidently so.

    I was asked recently by a friend — who's 'blog is a good PageRank 7 — how to get a Sitelink.

    I'm still none the wiser.

    Maybe someone can clarify things?
  • Wayne Smallman · 2 years ago
    "There seems to be lots of factors in sitelinks no one really knows about."

    Evidently so.

    I was asked recently by a friend — who's 'blog is a good PageRank 7 — how to get a Sitelink.

    I'm still none the wiser.

    Maybe someone can clarify things?
  • igorthetroll · 2 years ago
    Andy, I would presume sitelinks are a result of Google bombing, intentional or accidental.

    Should we jointly have andybeard.eu rank #1 for
    Vanessa Fox Nude..:)
  • igorthetroll · 2 years ago
    Andy, I would presume sitelinks are a result of Google bombing, intentional or accidental.

    Should we jointly have andybeard.eu rank #1 for
    Vanessa Fox Nude..:)
  • Mihaela Lica · 2 years ago
    I honestly doubt that PR has something to do with the sitelinks - I think Google looks more at site authority and trust rank. This really gave me an idea for an experiment. :)
  • Mihaela Lica · 2 years ago
    I honestly doubt that PR has something to do with the sitelinks - I think Google looks more at site authority and trust rank. This really gave me an idea for an experiment. :)
  • Tomaz Mencinger · 2 years ago
    I have a PR3 website with sitelinks.

    The interesting thing about that website is that it holds #1 and #2 rankings for a certain keyword search and that's where the sitelinks appear.
  • Tomaz Mencinger · 2 years ago
    I have a PR3 website with sitelinks.

    The interesting thing about that website is that it holds #1 and #2 rankings for a certain keyword search and that's where the sitelinks appear.
  • Robinson Go · 2 years ago
    thanks, now i have something to study for.

    i second that the google toolbar is lying. i think it's just for artificial purposes for the purchasing of links.
  • Robinson Go · 2 years ago
    thanks, now i have something to study for.

    i second that the google toolbar is lying. i think it's just for artificial purposes for the purchasing of links.
  • Sam Freedoms Internet Marketin · 2 years ago
    I love how everyone's still trying to figure out Google's neurosis. ;-) All I know is that if anyone deserved any penalties, I would think it would be me. After all, early on I made no bones about my experiments. I even did the "Mike Chen Secret Weapon Lite Link Spam Post" as a joke but still, you know how some techno-boneheads have no sense of humor.

    But, in all irony, my site had dropped down from PR4 down to PR2 for a while and now it's back up to PR4.

    You know what... I'm going to try to overtake you just for the fun of it. ;-) I just have to see if all this high-level investigative neurotic Google-humping is really so necessary.

    But, for me, it doesn't matter the subject over here... anything you write comes out interesting and a cut above.

    Cheers,
    Sam
  • Sam Freedoms Internet Marketin · 2 years ago
    I love how everyone's still trying to figure out Google's neurosis. ;-) All I know is that if anyone deserved any penalties, I would think it would be me. After all, early on I made no bones about my experiments. I even did the "Mike Chen Secret Weapon Lite Link Spam Post" as a joke but still, you know how some techno-boneheads have no sense of humor.

    But, in all irony, my site had dropped down from PR4 down to PR2 for a while and now it's back up to PR4.

    You know what... I'm going to try to overtake you just for the fun of it. ;-) I just have to see if all this high-level investigative neurotic Google-humping is really so necessary.

    But, for me, it doesn't matter the subject over here... anything you write comes out interesting and a cut above.

    Cheers,
    Sam
  • Sam Freedoms Internet Marketin · 2 years ago
    ok, i just looked at your PR and I take it back. ;-)
  • Sam Freedoms Internet Marketin · 2 years ago
    ok, i just looked at your PR and I take it back. ;-)
  • gabs · 2 years ago
    Its out of date too.. At least 3months imho..

    I have some on a clients site that lists a item which was on the homepage over 3 months ago but is litsted in the sitelinks..
  • gabs · 2 years ago
    Its out of date too.. At least 3months imho..

    I have some on a clients site that lists a item which was on the homepage over 3 months ago but is litsted in the sitelinks..
  • SEO-Newbie-Guy · 2 years ago
    So I'm wondering what is "Sitelinks" anyway. Obviously something to do w/ links, but is it, real or imagined, a rating Google gives based on links like PageRank?

    Trying to learn!
  • SEO-Newbie-Guy · 2 years ago
    So I'm wondering what is "Sitelinks" anyway. Obviously something to do w/ links, but is it, real or imagined, a rating Google gives based on links like PageRank?

    Trying to learn!
  • David Eaves · 2 years ago
    Congrats Andy, I have actually seen a PR3 domain with them, a site called MovieForumz.com, it has got a PR5 now, but up until the recent update it only had a PR3 and it had site links since the last site link update. I have seen a few PR4 sites with them.
  • David Eaves · 2 years ago
    Congrats Andy, I have actually seen a PR3 domain with them, a site called MovieForumz.com, it has got a PR5 now, but up until the recent update it only had a PR3 and it had site links since the last site link update. I have seen a few PR4 sites with them.
  • Jason A Clark · 2 years ago
    I predict that one day you will be able to go to college and major in Google. We'll have to hire people with Master Degrees in Google to tell us what's going on...and we still won't know.
  • Jason A Clark · 2 years ago
    I predict that one day you will be able to go to college and major in Google. We'll have to hire people with Master Degrees in Google to tell us what's going on...and we still won't know.
  • Marios Alexandrou · 2 years ago
    Sitelinks for PR5 sites is actually quite common. I just checked three past client sites that are PR 5 and two of them continue to have sitelinks. However, like you, I've never seen them on a PR4 site before. Kudos!
  • Marios Alexandrou · 2 years ago
    Sitelinks for PR5 sites is actually quite common. I just checked three past client sites that are PR 5 and two of them continue to have sitelinks. However, like you, I've never seen them on a PR4 site before. Kudos!
  • Marios Alexandrou · 2 years ago
    Sorry for the double post, I couldn't resist. It took me jsut 5 minutes to find another PR4 site with sitelinks. Maybe it isn't that uncommon after all? This time it's a real estate site with a state-level focus. However, the domain is pretty old so I still think hitting the sitelinks level in 1 year is worth noting.
  • Marios Alexandrou · 2 years ago
    Sorry for the double post, I couldn't resist. It took me jsut 5 minutes to find another PR4 site with sitelinks. Maybe it isn't that uncommon after all? This time it's a real estate site with a state-level focus. However, the domain is pretty old so I still think hitting the sitelinks level in 1 year is worth noting.
  • whydowork · 2 years ago
    I just checked our site. We recently got levelled from a 7,6,5 to 4 and we got some great sitelinks now:
    http://www.google.com/search?q=whydowork

    Including a link to Register on our site!

    One thing I have never figured out is what happened to our existence in Google "did you mean". It always used to catch misspellings however now (for the query above) it will still suggest "woodwork" :(

    Guess you can't have everything!
  • whydowork · 2 years ago
    I just checked our site. We recently got levelled from a 7,6,5 to 4 and we got some great sitelinks now:
    http://www.google.com/search?q=whydowork

    Including a link to Register on our site!

    One thing I have never figured out is what happened to our existence in Google "did you mean". It always used to catch misspellings however now (for the query above) it will still suggest "woodwork" :(

    Guess you can't have everything!
  • lucia · 2 years ago
    Maybe Page Rank simply means nothing anymore. Google just wants to publish something hoping to confuse link sellers and make them over pay or under pay.
  • lucia · 2 years ago
    Maybe Page Rank simply means nothing anymore. Google just wants to publish something hoping to confuse link sellers and make them over pay or under pay.
  • Lizzie · 2 years ago
    I wonder how many psychologists Google has on staff. They do a very good job of keeping conversations focused on them and keeping everyone guessing- so their brand remains strong no matter what happens. It's sad that they have so much control over the blogosphere (and indeed so much of the web, but my main concern is blogs).

    I have to laugh at Jason Clark though. I think we'd do better with soothe sayers than experts. LOL
  • Lizzie · 2 years ago
    I wonder how many psychologists Google has on staff. They do a very good job of keeping conversations focused on them and keeping everyone guessing- so their brand remains strong no matter what happens. It's sad that they have so much control over the blogosphere (and indeed so much of the web, but my main concern is blogs).

    I have to laugh at Jason Clark though. I think we'd do better with soothe sayers than experts. LOL
  • mblair · 2 years ago
    Regarding that odd Google bug -- "O - A. I." (not spelled out to make it easier to study in G) was one of the commenters on that page. I find this a really intersting quirk -- if we could nail down what may have gone wrong it may give us more insight into how sitelinks operate.

    I've studied the link profile for O's blog and the links to that particular page of yours and I am really scratching my head on this one.

    Somehow I think it has something to do with the two links from the comment heading to a blogspot blog... Google's spiders might get a little drunk when they stumble onto their own properties. :-)

    Another interesting thing here is that Google reordered "O - A I" to "A I O". Quirky.
  • mblair · 2 years ago
    Regarding that odd Google bug -- "O - A. I." (not spelled out to make it easier to study in G) was one of the commenters on that page. I find this a really intersting quirk -- if we could nail down what may have gone wrong it may give us more insight into how sitelinks operate.

    I've studied the link profile for O's blog and the links to that particular page of yours and I am really scratching my head on this one.

    Somehow I think it has something to do with the two links from the comment heading to a blogspot blog... Google's spiders might get a little drunk when they stumble onto their own properties. :-)

    Another interesting thing here is that Google reordered "O - A I" to "A I O". Quirky.
  • Badi Jones · 2 years ago
    I too was surprised to see that my blog got sitelinks along with my pagerank decrease.

    I have a couple of ideas about how/why sitelinks might be given for a particular search/ site.

    A) You really have to own the search (as was mentioned above by Tomaz)

    B) There has to be a significant number of searches for that term.

    I'd assume andybeard.eu has no problem owning the search for "Andy Beard" or "andybeard", also I'd bet you see a decent number of referrals from searches for "andy beard". Yes?
  • Badi Jones · 2 years ago
    I too was surprised to see that my blog got sitelinks along with my pagerank decrease.

    I have a couple of ideas about how/why sitelinks might be given for a particular search/ site.

    A) You really have to own the search (as was mentioned above by Tomaz)

    B) There has to be a significant number of searches for that term.

    I'd assume andybeard.eu has no problem owning the search for "Andy Beard" or "andybeard", also I'd bet you see a decent number of referrals from searches for "andy beard". Yes?
  • Ge Xiaofei · 2 years ago
    I have some low PR sites(PR 3-4) with sitelinks before, so i dont think PR has someting to do with sitelinks. I believe in site authority and trust rank anyway and get a lot of backlinks from relevant authority sites would help a lot.
  • Ge Xiaofei · 2 years ago
    I have some low PR sites(PR 3-4) with sitelinks before, so i dont think PR has someting to do with sitelinks. I believe in site authority and trust rank anyway and get a lot of backlinks from relevant authority sites would help a lot.
  • Eber · 2 years ago
    Andy, i am a problogger from Brazil, have a blog about cars for some 2 years, but my actual domain is only 1 1/2 year old. It is PR4 and i already have site links. My blog is the one i inserted in the URL field, and you can see my site links searching for "noticias automotivas".
  • Eber · 2 years ago
    Andy, i am a problogger from Brazil, have a blog about cars for some 2 years, but my actual domain is only 1 1/2 year old. It is PR4 and i already have site links. My blog is the one i inserted in the URL field, and you can see my site links searching for "noticias automotivas".
  • David Airey · 2 years ago
    Whatever the reason for your sitelinks addition, well done Andy. You fully deserve it, along with any additional traffic it may bring.

    Congrats to Maki too - another excellent blog author.
  • David Airey · 2 years ago
    Whatever the reason for your sitelinks addition, well done Andy. You fully deserve it, along with any additional traffic it may bring.

    Congrats to Maki too - another excellent blog author.
  • Yaniv · 2 years ago
    Since is Pagerank related to Sitelinks? PageRank that is displayed on the toolbar is not the best indicator of your true PageRank, especially for newer sites....
  • Yaniv · 2 years ago
    Since is Pagerank related to Sitelinks? PageRank that is displayed on the toolbar is not the best indicator of your true PageRank, especially for newer sites....
  • PChere · 2 years ago
    Our site has PR6 for a year with no sitelinks till now.
  • PChere · 2 years ago
    Our site has PR6 for a year with no sitelinks till now.
  • domainappraisal · 4 months ago
    I just checked our site and got levelled from a 5 to 4 and we got some great links. so you can try yourself again.