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Andy Beard - Internet Business Systems Discussion: Google Reputation Management Disaster With Open Social

  • Derek Wong · 2 years ago
    That was an awesome article (the "Scroogled" one). My my, that does paint a scary picture!

    Oh and also...your page is not nearly XHTML-compliant. I mean, neither is mine but that's why I don't say that I am. Just a thought since I actually did click yours to see. I find that not too many people care about it, and only those that do would even click the link in the first place.
  • Derek Wong · 2 years ago
    That was an awesome article (the "Scroogled" one). My my, that does paint a scary picture!

    Oh and also...your page is not nearly XHTML-compliant. I mean, neither is mine but that's why I don't say that I am. Just a thought since I actually did click yours to see. I find that not too many people care about it, and only those that do would even click the link in the first place.
  • Wayne Smallman · 2 years ago
    It's weird how Google seem to be turning into a lumbering animal with little concern or care for where they land their feet.

    What happened to the "do no evil" mantra? Where did that go?

    So we see Google edging towards social media. And why is this? The way I see it, Sponsored Links are to Google what Windows is to Microsoft — about the only things that make them money.

    While ever people are using social media to find things, they're not searching using Google.

    The problem for Google is they're sending out totally mixed messages about the value of social media, or how they value social media.

    On the one hand, Google Universal is supposed to reward websites and 'blogs that have lots of social traffic, like comments. But then they penalize 'blogs that do well in social networks and via social media venues like Digg, StumbleUpon et cetera.

    So the question is: assuming Google do release their own social media portal, will they be as quick to 'vanish' articles that go global from their own service?"
  • Wayne Smallman · 2 years ago
    It's weird how Google seem to be turning into a lumbering animal with little concern or care for where they land their feet.

    What happened to the "do no evil" mantra? Where did that go?

    So we see Google edging towards social media. And why is this? The way I see it, Sponsored Links are to Google what Windows is to Microsoft — about the only things that make them money.

    While ever people are using social media to find things, they're not searching using Google.

    The problem for Google is they're sending out totally mixed messages about the value of social media, or how they value social media.

    On the one hand, Google Universal is supposed to reward websites and 'blogs that have lots of social traffic, like comments. But then they penalize 'blogs that do well in social networks and via social media venues like Digg, StumbleUpon et cetera.

    So the question is: assuming Google do release their own social media portal, will they be as quick to 'vanish' articles that go global from their own service?"
  • Ernesto · 2 years ago
    I'm delighted to have found this blog. You right on to call out Google on this usurping of Open Social name. I hate to say it but I have grown very weary of Google's business practices as of late. I hope these are just mistakes of a young company that's having trouble dealing with their enormous success, but every day I these "mistakes" seem more premeditated and disregarding... surely someone attorney at Google would have spoken up that they just can't take someone else's name... right? Or what, or perhaps some attorney did speak up, only to say "yeah, let's just take it, we're Google, we can do whatever we want".

    Careful Google, you can't keep this up forever.
  • WebsiteAnalystinDC · 2 years ago
    I'm delighted to have found this blog. You right on to call out Google on this usurping of Open Social name. I hate to say it but I have grown very weary of Google's business practices as of late. I hope these are just mistakes of a young company that's having trouble dealing with their enormous success, but every day I these "mistakes" seem more premeditated and disregarding... surely someone attorney at Google would have spoken up that they just can't take someone else's name... right? Or what, or perhaps some attorney did speak up, only to say "yeah, let's just take it, we're Google, we can do whatever we want".

    Careful Google, you can't keep this up forever.
  • les · 2 years ago
    Hi
    I really enjoy reading your posts(and have subscribed).

    I have one question. Is google trying to become the Microsoft of the internet and dictating how we all use. I get the feeling they trying to force all web page owners to do it all 'their or else'. I am new to blogging and at present don't really care about google's ranking of pages. To me Alexis is a real indication as to how my pages are performing. Is Alexis relevant now?

    cheers les

    Your site has been reviewed by the radical blogger = you can see the results here:

    http://myradicalblogs.com/?page_id=38

    It may take several hours for the front page article to appear. You review however has been published.
  • les · 2 years ago
    Hi
    I really enjoy reading your posts(and have subscribed).

    I have one question. Is google trying to become the Microsoft of the internet and dictating how we all use. I get the feeling they trying to force all web page owners to do it all 'their or else'. I am new to blogging and at present don't really care about google's ranking of pages. To me Alexis is a real indication as to how my pages are performing. Is Alexis relevant now?

    cheers les

    Your site has been reviewed by the radical blogger = you can see the results here:

    http://myradicalblogs.com/?page_id=38

    It may take several hours for the front page article to appear. You review however has been published.
  • Blog Opinion · 2 years ago
    Google just collecting information in each and every way. They care about your privacy, they collect each every infomation using Gmail, Reader, Google talk, these all service are spyware to collect maximum information. They are using there Pagerank in a wrong way. Don't see your Google pagerank now!.
  • Blog Opinion · 2 years ago
    Google just collecting information in each and every way. They care about your privacy, they collect each every infomation using Gmail, Reader, Google talk, these all service are spyware to collect maximum information. They are using there Pagerank in a wrong way. Don't see your Google pagerank now!.
  • Cruise Control · 2 years ago
    First let me say you have an excellent blog!!! You are stating a welcome truth.

    As for the Google Empire, I have always felt that they had too much say and control with what is allowed or indexed on the web.

    Per other comments, they almost remind me of businesses wanting to sell their inventory at Walmart, they have to meet all the price settings as dictated by Walmart, or no sell to Walmart, I remember watching a CNBC show on Walmart, rings almost of Google.

    When will Google take over Walmart?

    As for the powers that be at Google, what Lord Acton stated
    Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely
  • Cruise Control · 2 years ago
    First let me say you have an excellent blog!!! You are stating a welcome truth.

    As for the Google Empire, I have always felt that they had too much say and control with what is allowed or indexed on the web.

    Per other comments, they almost remind me of businesses wanting to sell their inventory at Walmart, they have to meet all the price settings as dictated by Walmart, or no sell to Walmart, I remember watching a CNBC show on Walmart, rings almost of Google.

    When will Google take over Walmart?

    As for the powers that be at Google, what Lord Acton stated
    Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely
  • CrankyDave · 2 years ago
    Google Open Social? Please.

    How about starting with a little "social responsibility" first.

    Professional athletes may not want to be role models... too bad, they are. They don't have to like it. Doesn't matter. Because of the influence they wield, they have a social responsibility to behave as such.

    How about you Google? With the flick of a switch, the turn of a dial, you have a direct influence on millions of people, many times on a very personal level.

    How about recognizing the responsibity you have for the influence you wield and behave accordingly? How about acknowledging the possibility that it may have been you that made a mistake.
  • CrankyDave · 2 years ago
    Google Open Social? Please.

    How about starting with a little "social responsibility" first.

    Professional athletes may not want to be role models... too bad, they are. They don't have to like it. Doesn't matter. Because of the influence they wield, they have a social responsibility to behave as such.

    How about you Google? With the flick of a switch, the turn of a dial, you have a direct influence on millions of people, many times on a very personal level.

    How about recognizing the responsibity you have for the influence you wield and behave accordingly? How about acknowledging the possibility that it may have been you that made a mistake.
  • George · 2 years ago
    Excellent post. I would love to hear what Joseph Smarr, Marc Canter, Robert Scoble, and Michael Arrington think about this.

    Maybe they are too busy talking with their lawyers to comment ;)
  • George · 2 years ago
    Excellent post. I would love to hear what Joseph Smarr, Marc Canter, Robert Scoble, and Michael Arrington think about this.

    Maybe they are too busy talking with their lawyers to comment ;)
  • Amish Furniture · 2 years ago
    Andy, I love your posts and comment regularly on them. This is one of the best that I have read. I can not but feel that this is getting to be a David vs Goliath situation. Having been a corporate man all my life, I still do not understand how Google is still not getting into damage control mode. There are too many bloggers complaining and G does not seem to care. Does not augur well for their future. Yes, it is immaterial what their stock quotes at. We have seen a lot of companies who had that and lost it.
  • Amish Furniture · 2 years ago
    Andy, I love your posts and comment regularly on them. This is one of the best that I have read. I can not but feel that this is getting to be a David vs Goliath situation. Having been a corporate man all my life, I still do not understand how Google is still not getting into damage control mode. There are too many bloggers complaining and G does not seem to care. Does not augur well for their future. Yes, it is immaterial what their stock quotes at. We have seen a lot of companies who had that and lost it.
  • Michael Woo · 2 years ago
    This is definitely great material :) I sphunn u :D I wonder how will they perform.. but then again, when you got the money, it's most likely successful.. it's just the matter of how much you wanna pump in?
  • Michael Woo · 2 years ago
    This is definitely great material :) I sphunn u :D I wonder how will they perform.. but then again, when you got the money, it's most likely successful.. it's just the matter of how much you wanna pump in?
  • igorthetroll · 2 years ago
    Andy, I wonder how Google will feel about this.
    www.googlepatrol.org
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    Igor I should stick that next to a PayPerPost logo ;)

    As far as the quality guidelines go, I am convinced I comply to both the letter and the spirit.

    I don't even plan to charge more now I have sitelinks ;)
  • igorthetroll · 2 years ago
    Andy, I wonder how Google will feel about this.
    www.googlepatrol.org
  • AndyBeard · 2 years ago
    Igor I should stick that next to a PayPerPost logo ;)

    As far as the quality guidelines go, I am convinced I comply to both the letter and the spirit.

    I don't even plan to charge more now I have sitelinks ;)
  • igorthetroll · 2 years ago
    Go for it, you deserve it, for all your hard work to uphold GQG! I figure the little g is more powerful than the big G.
  • igorthetroll · 2 years ago
    Go for it, you deserve it, for all your hard work to uphold GQG! I figure the little g is more powerful than the big G.
  • igorthetroll · 2 years ago
    Andy, looks like with the help of a few friends, Google finally waking up.
    http://sphinn.com/story/13673

    Igor The Troll
  • igorthetroll · 2 years ago
    Andy, looks like with the help of a few friends, Google finally waking up.
    http://sphinn.com/story/13673

    Igor The Troll
  • Brand Yourself · 9 months ago
    Hi Andy,

    18 months later, and the "Google Wariness" continues. To be fair though, as they evolve further into the corporate behemoth, it's difficult for them to maintain their "do no evil" mantra, despite their best efforts.

    Besides their attempt to clamp down on Google-branded domains (which they are still failing at), they have also recently cut out the free PPC budgets to charities, thus sinking further to the dark side...
  • Brand Yourself · 9 months ago
    Hi Andy,

    18 months later, and the "Google Wariness" continues. To be fair though, as they evolve further into the corporate behemoth, it's difficult for them to maintain their "do no evil" mantra, despite their best efforts.

    Besides their attempt to clamp down on Google-branded domains (which they are still failing at), they have also recently cut out the free PPC budgets to charities, thus sinking further to the dark side...