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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>Andy Beard - Internet Business Systems Discussion - Latest Comments in Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.disqus.com/</link><description>Internet Marketing, Lead Acquisition, Online Business Strategy and Social Media with Original Opinion and Loads of Attitude</description><atom:link href="https://andybeard.disqus.com/google_paid_links_8211_google_sliding_down_the_slippery_slope_of_evildom_00/latest.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:56:02 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-12523659</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Money is the root of all evil. Google upset because they want to own all links and tell webmasters what they can and can't do. The reason why it is an issue is due to two factors:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1. Links affect their results&lt;br&gt;2. Links make money&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They have to understand that money buys all business unless you are lucky to get referrals. They need to bite the bullet and understand that the real world works in the same way. Its a money and popularity contest. Money gets you places. Thats why no one cares about my comment right now and thats why it wont make a difference.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Scott</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:56:02 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-10989052</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Money is the root of all evil. Google upset because they want to own all links and tell webmasters what they can and can't do. The reason why it is an issue is due to two factors:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1. Links affect their results&lt;br&gt;2. Links make money&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They have to understand that money buys all business unless you are lucky to get referrals. They need to bite the bullet and understand that the real world works in the same way. Its a money and popularity contest. Money gets you places. Thats why no one cares about my comment right now and thats why it wont make a difference.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Scott</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:56:02 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-12523658</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I am writting an operating system called "TheZoid" at &lt;a href="http://thezoid.co.uk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://thezoid.co.uk"&gt;http://thezoid.co.uk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have no choice but to add this due to nasty search engine which will not advertise my busuiness called google addwords on &lt;a href="http://www.google.co.uk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="www.google.co.uk"&gt;www.google.co.uk&lt;/a&gt; which wishes to charge very high prices and as an excuse call my website very poor quality. If you manage to find this website as &lt;a href="http://www.google.co.uk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="www.google.co.uk"&gt;www.google.co.uk&lt;/a&gt; is trying its best to keep it out of its search engine that is unbelivable. I would like to know why google cannot recognize TheZoid as an operating system !!! Please send &lt;a href="http://www.google.co.uk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="www.google.co.uk"&gt;www.google.co.uk&lt;/a&gt; lots of emails and tell them that shitting on the small man is good business sense. If google wishes me to remove this from my website than advertise my business fairly, at resaonable rates !!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Did you know &lt;a href="http://google.co.uk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="google.co.uk"&gt;google.co.uk&lt;/a&gt; wishes to charge upto five pounds for one Click for the word "Operating System" and many other words, I would like to know what is this Bullshit !!!!&lt;br&gt;Please show your outrage by boycotting the google search engine !!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This message was posted on 15/11/2007 just after I cancelled my google adwords account which will not advertise my business. I will not pay stupid prices for one click for one keyword !!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you work at &lt;a href="http://www.google.co.uk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="www.google.co.uk"&gt;www.google.co.uk&lt;/a&gt; and find this fucking offensive then I am fucking hope so and you can go fuck yourselfs. PS keep pissing of the small man, and I hope you go out of business !!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">allan</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:45:51 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-10989051</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I am writting an operating system called "TheZoid" at &lt;a href="http://thezoid.co.uk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://thezoid.co.uk"&gt;http://thezoid.co.uk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have no choice but to add this due to nasty search engine which will not advertise my busuiness called google addwords on &lt;a href="http://www.google.co.uk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="www.google.co.uk"&gt;www.google.co.uk&lt;/a&gt; which wishes to charge very high prices and as an excuse call my website very poor quality. If you manage to find this website as &lt;a href="http://www.google.co.uk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="www.google.co.uk"&gt;www.google.co.uk&lt;/a&gt; is trying its best to keep it out of its search engine that is unbelivable. I would like to know why google cannot recognize TheZoid as an operating system !!! Please send &lt;a href="http://www.google.co.uk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="www.google.co.uk"&gt;www.google.co.uk&lt;/a&gt; lots of emails and tell them that shitting on the small man is good business sense. If google wishes me to remove this from my website than advertise my business fairly, at resaonable rates !!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Did you know &lt;a href="http://google.co.uk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="google.co.uk"&gt;google.co.uk&lt;/a&gt; wishes to charge upto five pounds for one Click for the word "Operating System" and many other words, I would like to know what is this Bullshit !!!!&lt;br&gt;Please show your outrage by boycotting the google search engine !!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This message was posted on 15/11/2007 just after I cancelled my google adwords account which will not advertise my business. I will not pay stupid prices for one click for one keyword !!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you work at &lt;a href="http://www.google.co.uk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="www.google.co.uk"&gt;www.google.co.uk&lt;/a&gt; and find this fucking offensive then I am fucking hope so and you can go fuck yourselfs. PS keep pissing of the small man, and I hope you go out of business !!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">allan</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:45:51 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-12523657</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I have only just latched onto this paid links witchhunt recently and, of all the things Google has done over the years, this is surely the most ill-advised.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Paid links are only ever sought by people who seek to make a profit from their websites.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That being the case, if my site sells "Red Widgets" then I am going to try to increase my serps for the term Red Widgets.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If doing this makes me Number One on Google for the term "Red Widgets" then what is the problem?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When a user types in "Red Widgets", they will see my link, click on it and think, "Oh great, this site sells Red Widgets, this is exactly what I am looking for".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If Google now decides to penalise me for paying for links that have made me top for "Red Widgets" they are hurting me and hurting the user.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The whole point of a search engine is search-term relevancy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If my site is the very best resource for "Red Widgets", who are Google REALLY penalising when they make my site drop out from the serps?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Answer: A: Themselves (because they are now not providing their user with the best resource for the term), B:The Searcher because by the time they have penalised all the Red Widget sellers, who knows what will come up tops? C:The business and website owners who give Google something to give to their users.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have long thought that Google basically want every dollar that is spent on the internet to somehow go through them so that they pick up a least one cent.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This new measure just goes to prove it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The only way they want webmasters to monetise their sites by selling those little bits of white space is through Adsense.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It has been some time since they made a crackdown on Affiliate Sites - their argument may be that they clog up the serps with duplicate content. I disagree but this isn't really the argument. The problem they have is that affiliate sites don't pass on any revenue to Google.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If it were possible to prevent every business owner from being so scared of Google and show some balls as the author of this site has done then I would say, "Just carry on, buy links if you have the budget, when Google penalises every busines owner in the world for buying links, where will that leave their serps? A search for Red Widgets will come up with Blue Widgets and their users will soon tire of that and move elsewhere."&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Andy Baxter</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:19:29 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-10989050</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I have only just latched onto this paid links witchhunt recently and, of all the things Google has done over the years, this is surely the most ill-advised.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Paid links are only ever sought by people who seek to make a profit from their websites.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That being the case, if my site sells "Red Widgets" then I am going to try to increase my serps for the term Red Widgets.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If doing this makes me Number One on Google for the term "Red Widgets" then what is the problem?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When a user types in "Red Widgets", they will see my link, click on it and think, "Oh great, this site sells Red Widgets, this is exactly what I am looking for".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If Google now decides to penalise me for paying for links that have made me top for "Red Widgets" they are hurting me and hurting the user.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The whole point of a search engine is search-term relevancy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If my site is the very best resource for "Red Widgets", who are Google REALLY penalising when they make my site drop out from the serps?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Answer: A: Themselves (because they are now not providing their user with the best resource for the term), B:The Searcher because by the time they have penalised all the Red Widget sellers, who knows what will come up tops? C:The business and website owners who give Google something to give to their users.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have long thought that Google basically want every dollar that is spent on the internet to somehow go through them so that they pick up a least one cent.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This new measure just goes to prove it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The only way they want webmasters to monetise their sites by selling those little bits of white space is through Adsense.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It has been some time since they made a crackdown on Affiliate Sites - their argument may be that they clog up the serps with duplicate content. I disagree but this isn't really the argument. The problem they have is that affiliate sites don't pass on any revenue to Google.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If it were possible to prevent every business owner from being so scared of Google and show some balls as the author of this site has done then I would say, "Just carry on, buy links if you have the budget, when Google penalises every busines owner in the world for buying links, where will that leave their serps? A search for Red Widgets will come up with Blue Widgets and their users will soon tire of that and move elsewhere."&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Andy Baxter</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:19:29 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-12523656</link><description>&lt;p&gt;This was such an AWESOME POST!  Thank you for finally being one of the big boys to fight back.  I think its crap Google or actually all these fools with Google Stock options are attempting to ruin our Internet just because they have the power of massive monopoly behind them...  Bahhh!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Real Estate SEO</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 17:15:56 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-10989049</link><description>&lt;p&gt;This was such an AWESOME POST!  Thank you for finally being one of the big boys to fight back.  I think its crap Google or actually all these fools with Google Stock options are attempting to ruin our Internet just because they have the power of massive monopoly behind them...  Bahhh!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Real Estate SEO</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 17:15:56 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-12523655</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I'm a bit late to this party, but I read Matt C's original post on this issue and all the comments that followed. Your post is the best article I've read debunking the absolute absurdity of what he proposes. Even more impressive is your willingness to put your money where your mouth is by submitting your own material. I hope the response Matt has gotten to this issue convinces the others at Google that pursuing this line of action will at best lead to massive ambiguity, and at worst all out sabotage between competing websites. Thanks for standing up!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Pitumbo</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 00:08:02 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-10989048</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I'm a bit late to this party, but I read Matt C's original post on this issue and all the comments that followed. Your post is the best article I've read debunking the absolute absurdity of what he proposes. Even more impressive is your willingness to put your money where your mouth is by submitting your own material. I hope the response Matt has gotten to this issue convinces the others at Google that pursuing this line of action will at best lead to massive ambiguity, and at worst all out sabotage between competing websites. Thanks for standing up!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Pitumbo</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 00:08:02 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-12523654</link><description>&lt;p&gt;i completely agree with aaron. google cannot even begin to assume they can determine the intent of why something is linked. i could report 100% of all my #1 competitor's back links (that i can find), and hope that google determines at least 20% are "paid" so i can jump to #1.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;and andy, you've pointed out some great examples of these gray area links. what is influencing someone to link? it's not as simple as: advertiser pays publisher, publisher posts advertiser's link under "sponsor" section... legitimate links will be discounted. i also wrote a similar argument a few days ago. it makes me mad, this whole thing doesn't sit right with me.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">msdanielle</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 02:55:10 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-10989047</link><description>&lt;p&gt;i completely agree with aaron. google cannot even begin to assume they can determine the intent of why something is linked. i could report 100% of all my #1 competitor's back links (that i can find), and hope that google determines at least 20% are "paid" so i can jump to #1.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;and andy, you've pointed out some great examples of these gray area links. what is influencing someone to link? it's not as simple as: advertiser pays publisher, publisher posts advertiser's link under "sponsor" section... legitimate links will be discounted. i also wrote a similar argument a few days ago. it makes me mad, this whole thing doesn't sit right with me.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">msdanielle</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 02:55:10 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-10989045</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Great post as usual Andy.  &lt;b&gt;Grey area&lt;/b&gt; ... just about everything in this world has that grey area that falls in between of the black or white.  For Google, they are threatening to judge the grey area of link intent and value and determine FOR US what is black and what is white.  They will make this judgment without fully knowing the intent, misjudging the true value to the user and most definitely they will not compromise anything related to their own earnings.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That bothers me.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">aaron</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:17:10 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-12523653</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Great post as usual Andy.  &lt;b&gt;Grey area&lt;/b&gt; ... just about everything in this world has that grey area that falls in between of the black or white.  For Google, they are threatening to judge the grey area of link intent and value and determine FOR US what is black and what is white.  They will make this judgment without fully knowing the intent, misjudging the true value to the user and most definitely they will not compromise anything related to their own earnings.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That bothers me.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">aaron</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:17:10 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-12523652</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Nice post Andy,&lt;br&gt;Kudos to you for submitting your own information although I don't expect you will receive a reply.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Google really is trying to pull a fast-one with this paid links threat, it has nothing to do with SERPs being improved.&lt;br&gt;In fact I think it will produce the opposite effect and reduce the quality of the index, thus making ADSENSE look a great deal more targeted (more clicks for Google!)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Eventually they will just have the whole first page (or two) of search results as adsense, and be done with it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am withdrawing my promotion of ADWORDS referal across all of my sites and will never promote it again.&lt;br&gt;It's my little piece that I am able to do as a website owner.&lt;br&gt;Apart from using adsense (YPN not available in the UK yet)&lt;br&gt;I will never promote a Google product again and I have already stopped the pesky "advertise on this site" Google link from the adsense display.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Regards.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Classifieds</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:34:12 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-10989044</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Nice post Andy,&lt;br&gt;Kudos to you for submitting your own information although I don't expect you will receive a reply.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Google really is trying to pull a fast-one with this paid links threat, it has nothing to do with SERPs being improved.&lt;br&gt;In fact I think it will produce the opposite effect and reduce the quality of the index, thus making ADSENSE look a great deal more targeted (more clicks for Google!)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Eventually they will just have the whole first page (or two) of search results as adsense, and be done with it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am withdrawing my promotion of ADWORDS referal across all of my sites and will never promote it again.&lt;br&gt;It's my little piece that I am able to do as a website owner.&lt;br&gt;Apart from using adsense (YPN not available in the UK yet)&lt;br&gt;I will never promote a Google product again and I have already stopped the pesky "advertise on this site" Google link from the adsense display.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Regards.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Classifieds</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:34:12 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-10989043</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Great write up Andy!  I couldn't agree more that some type of definition for "paid links" needs to be set so that we can know what we can and can't do.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am a big fan of your blog and am REALLY glad that you have put yourself out there for Google to take action against and I am anxious to see how they reply to your spam report!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Mark Barrera</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:37:19 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-12523651</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Great write up Andy!  I couldn't agree more that some type of definition for "paid links" needs to be set so that we can know what we can and can't do.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am a big fan of your blog and am REALLY glad that you have put yourself out there for Google to take action against and I am anxious to see how they reply to your spam report!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Mark Barrera</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:37:19 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-12523650</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Hope you haven't edged too close to the precipice. If, one day soon, you are nowhere to be found, we'll know you were sucked into a huge, black void.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">skeet</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:25:57 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-10989042</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Hope you haven't edged too close to the precipice. If, one day soon, you are nowhere to be found, we'll know you were sucked into a huge, black void.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">skeet</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:25:57 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-12523649</link><description>&lt;p&gt;you have been tagged-- I want to know what you do to be successful&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://homebizblogger.com/2007/04/17/being-successful/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://homebizblogger.com/2007/04/17/being-successful/"&gt;http://homebizblogger.com/2...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">eve</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:55:37 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-10989041</link><description>&lt;p&gt;you have been tagged-- I want to know what you do to be successful&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://homebizblogger.com/2007/04/17/being-successful/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://homebizblogger.com/2007/04/17/being-successful/"&gt;http://homebizblogger.com/2...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">eve</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:55:37 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-10989040</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I'll be interested to watch this post and the outcome. This is exactly the reason I came up with that idea I spoke to you about the other day.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I spent many years marketing; long before google and Matt Cutts. The most important part of our job with our clients was to take their product to the street.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Get reviews from consumers. Get feedback, input and constructive criticism. Well, the days of knocking on doors is over and business is done on the internet.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If my site is set up free of charge to help companies adopt to their clients via consumer reviews and the same type of constructive criticism that has been used for hundreds of years, will Google have a problem with it because it's on the net?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Marc Chase</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:43:51 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-12523648</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I'll be interested to watch this post and the outcome. This is exactly the reason I came up with that idea I spoke to you about the other day.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I spent many years marketing; long before google and Matt Cutts. The most important part of our job with our clients was to take their product to the street.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Get reviews from consumers. Get feedback, input and constructive criticism. Well, the days of knocking on doors is over and business is done on the internet.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If my site is set up free of charge to help companies adopt to their clients via consumer reviews and the same type of constructive criticism that has been used for hundreds of years, will Google have a problem with it because it's on the net?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Marc Chase</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:43:51 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Paid Links &amp;#8211; Google Sliding Down The Slippery Slope of Evildom</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/659/google-paidlinks.html#comment-12523647</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Adwords when displayed on a website (Adsense) use javascript, and in theory search engines don't read javascript that is pulled down from another server and activate it. It is client side content.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Advertising in javascript has been around for longer than Google, and before links had any search engine value.&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;ul&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;Javascript can be changes dynamically&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;Javascript is browser dependant, and does not require specific server configuration - it should be noted that PHP and SQL databases were a luxury item when Google first launched their advertising.&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;Javascript is webmaster independent - it is hard to hack the javascript that appears on your site&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;Javascript can provide tracking&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are problems with javascript though for advertising, especially on blogs.&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;ul&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;Javascript is blocked by many adware blockers, including some actively promoted by browser manufacturers&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;Javascript doesn't work in RSS feeds&lt;br&gt;Google have been beta-testing (closed) some kind of advertising method for RSS feed content for some time (2 years?), and as on many blogs 90% of the content is read via subscription, this is a major problem&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;It generally can't be inserted within the content in such a way that it doesn't affect layout, unless it is something like Kontera which uses javascript and modifies the CSS for particular words.&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I took a risk writing this post, and submitting my own content as webspam because an exact definition of what is allowed isn't available, and that the FUD has a vast affect on the decisions of my readership on which avenues they use for advertising, and it also has an affect on my future business plans (which I declare all the time, but keep confidential)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The main reason I write sponsored posts isn't for the income, but to educate in how quality content can be sponsored or provide some monetary benefit, and to provide specific examples in situation like this, that might help clear up the FUD.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There can be no mistake that I was paid money for those reviews, but can Google be justified in calling them Webspam?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">AndyBeard</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>