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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>Andy Beard - Internet Business Systems Discussion - Latest Comments in Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.disqus.com/</link><description>Internet Marketing, Lead Acquisition, Online Business Strategy and Social Media with Original Opinion and Loads of Attitude</description><atom:link href="https://andybeard.disqus.com/google_groups_comment_spam_06/latest.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:45:18 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-12527641</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Andy thanks for mentioning phsdl, I put a lot of work into it and it has helped cleaning up Malware Spam. So You will not not find much Malware Spam redirect domains on Google groups or blogspot now days. But passive Spam is hard to ger read off. Even on my Human rights activist blog I got passive Spam but I have the setting on Wordpress set to have first time commentators moderated and the hello I like your post will not be posted..:)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I just come back from SES London, too bad we could not meet in person and have a beer. The show really sucked not many people were there.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">igorthetroll</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:45:18 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-10993232</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Andy thanks for mentioning phsdl, I put a lot of work into it and it has helped cleaning up Malware Spam. So You will not not find much Malware Spam redirect domains on Google groups or blogspot now days. But passive Spam is hard to ger read off. Even on my Human rights activist blog I got passive Spam but I have the setting on Wordpress set to have first time commentators moderated and the hello I like your post will not be posted..:)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I just come back from SES London, too bad we could not meet in person and have a beer. The show really sucked not many people were there.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">igorthetroll</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:45:18 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-12527640</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Its all a matter of volume. I dont want to be a human spam filter and spend every minute of my day checking for spam. Akismet works okay for me but lets through couple of spam frequently (especially the ones without links). And I hate captchas, I won't put one on my blog. So I wrote a plugin to block comment spam without resorting to captchas called WP Captcha-Free (Sorry for the shameless plug, I hope you don't take this as comment spam ;) ). It uses a combination of time based hash and ajax to block spam (or atleast ensure the commenter was human). I use it myself on both my blogs and now get almost zero spam from an earlier 40+ per day. This doesnâ€™t replace Akismet but does complement it very well. You can check it out at &lt;a href="http://wordpresssupplies.com/wordpress-plugins/captcha-free/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://wordpresssupplies.com/wordpress-plugins/captcha-free/"&gt;http://wordpresssupplies.co...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you do, let me know what you think!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">iDope</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:02:07 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-10993231</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Its all a matter of volume. I dont want to be a human spam filter and spend every minute of my day checking for spam. Akismet works okay for me but lets through couple of spam frequently (especially the ones without links). And I hate captchas, I won't put one on my blog. So I wrote a plugin to block comment spam without resorting to captchas called WP Captcha-Free (Sorry for the shameless plug, I hope you don't take this as comment spam ;) ). It uses a combination of time based hash and ajax to block spam (or atleast ensure the commenter was human). I use it myself on both my blogs and now get almost zero spam from an earlier 40+ per day. This doesnâ€™t replace Akismet but does complement it very well. You can check it out at &lt;a href="http://wordpresssupplies.com/wordpress-plugins/captcha-free/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://wordpresssupplies.com/wordpress-plugins/captcha-free/"&gt;http://wordpresssupplies.co...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you do, let me know what you think!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">iDope</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:02:07 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-12527639</link><description>&lt;p&gt;One issue with keeping a spammed domain list like the PHDSL...you say "blacklist" I say "backlink scraping list"&lt;br&gt;Although to be fair, it's not hard to find spamvertised domains without it for a quick backlink scrape.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">SlightlyShadySEO</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:08:03 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-10993230</link><description>&lt;p&gt;One issue with keeping a spammed domain list like the PHDSL...you say "blacklist" I say "backlink scraping list"&lt;br&gt;Although to be fair, it's not hard to find spamvertised domains without it for a quick backlink scrape.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">SlightlyShadySEO</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:08:03 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-12527638</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Hello Andy sorry abt my looooooong anchor, ill keep it short next time :)&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Dev @ seo blog site</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:07:16 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-10993229</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Hello Andy sorry abt my looooooong anchor, ill keep it short next time :)&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Dev @ seo blog site</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:07:16 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-12527637</link><description>&lt;p&gt;David sorry I didn't get back to this sooner - I suppose performance difference depends on how you work and how many blogs you own.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I find using SK more efficient, and safer&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">AndyBeard</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:15:24 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-10993228</link><description>&lt;p&gt;David sorry I didn't get back to this sooner - I suppose performance difference depends on how you work and how many blogs you own.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I find using SK more efficient, and safer&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">AndyBeard</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:15:24 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-12527636</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I gotcha, good explanation. I've been thinking about this a lot lately mainly for my own site not client sites. But the last thing I want is to look like an ass on a blog that I frequent a lot.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So it sounds like your saying as long as I do it for my own site and no obvious keyword abuse than it's not too frowned upon.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Drew Stauffer</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:36:28 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-10993227</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I gotcha, good explanation. I've been thinking about this a lot lately mainly for my own site not client sites. But the last thing I want is to look like an ass on a blog that I frequent a lot.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So it sounds like your saying as long as I do it for my own site and no obvious keyword abuse than it's not too frowned upon.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Drew Stauffer</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:36:28 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-12527635</link><description>&lt;p&gt;It is partially covered in my comment policy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I basically want all links to be to good sites where I can find out something about a person, thus they can then use anchor text.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If someone from Google left a comment here, and linked through to a Google property, I would expect them to use their name rather than "search engine"&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anywhere in between is a judgement call. As an example I know Shawn from Hobo Web has other people he works with, but effectively he is the only one out and about commenting. I have told him that he can abuse anchor text all he likes to his own sites.&lt;br&gt;If he started leaving anchor text links to client sites I would delete them, it wouldn't be fair.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dev's comment above I allowed, I could reply to his comment as Dev and not worry. Probably a few too many keywords, but the site was legit.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are a few family business owners who are regulars, and leave keywords as anchor text, I am fine with that as I checked their company profile.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The same is true for SEOs, Realtors etc, who have a personal site.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I would prefer people to use anchor text that is relevant to them, as long as I can relate to the person leaving the comment.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That being said if someone has a 12 person firm and leaves a comment with anchor text, and I visit the link and can't work out who left the comment, I am going to call them out on it and probably delete the link.&lt;br&gt;I have upset people over it as well&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am also good at spotting junk sites - I will delete the links even if a name is used that appears on the other site.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">AndyBeard</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:17:45 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-10993226</link><description>&lt;p&gt;It is partially covered in my comment policy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I basically want all links to be to good sites where I can find out something about a person, thus they can then use anchor text.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If someone from Google left a comment here, and linked through to a Google property, I would expect them to use their name rather than "search engine"&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anywhere in between is a judgement call. As an example I know Shawn from Hobo Web has other people he works with, but effectively he is the only one out and about commenting. I have told him that he can abuse anchor text all he likes to his own sites.&lt;br&gt;If he started leaving anchor text links to client sites I would delete them, it wouldn't be fair.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dev's comment above I allowed, I could reply to his comment as Dev and not worry. Probably a few too many keywords, but the site was legit.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are a few family business owners who are regulars, and leave keywords as anchor text, I am fine with that as I checked their company profile.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The same is true for SEOs, Realtors etc, who have a personal site.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I would prefer people to use anchor text that is relevant to them, as long as I can relate to the person leaving the comment.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That being said if someone has a 12 person firm and leaves a comment with anchor text, and I visit the link and can't work out who left the comment, I am going to call them out on it and probably delete the link.&lt;br&gt;I have upset people over it as well&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am also good at spotting junk sites - I will delete the links even if a name is used that appears on the other site.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">AndyBeard</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:17:45 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-10993225</link><description>&lt;p&gt;A little off topic and please point me to another post if you've already covered something like this but...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;How do you feel about people using keywords for their name in comments rather than their own name?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It seems ok when you see one or two comments like that, but there are a lot of blogs I go to where ALL the comments are like that and I wonder what it's going to do for blog comments in the future.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Any thoughts?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Drew Stauffer</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:31:14 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-12527634</link><description>&lt;p&gt;A little off topic and please point me to another post if you've already covered something like this but...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;How do you feel about people using keywords for their name in comments rather than their own name?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It seems ok when you see one or two comments like that, but there are a lot of blogs I go to where ALL the comments are like that and I wonder what it's going to do for blog comments in the future.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Any thoughts?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Drew Stauffer</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:31:14 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-12527633</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Well up until now i never been to a google group and don't even know how they look like :D, But i would like to know from you, Does google groups has No-Follow disabled ? Is it really worth posting on google groups ..? Interms of back links ? hmmmm&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Dev @ Internet marketing seo b</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:27:44 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-10993224</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Well up until now i never been to a google group and don't even know how they look like :D, But i would like to know from you, Does google groups has No-Follow disabled ? Is it really worth posting on google groups ..? Interms of back links ? hmmmm&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Dev @ Internet marketing seo b</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:27:44 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-12527632</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I tried the honey pot project with several well known spam domains. But they were "clean" strange enough...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At my old blog I had several Google Redirect pages, starting with &lt;a href="http://google.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="google.com"&gt;google.com&lt;/a&gt; and then the spam domain. Tough to track but also simply banned &lt;a href="http://google.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="google.com"&gt;google.com&lt;/a&gt; at the end.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">geld lenen</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 07:26:38 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-10993223</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I tried the honey pot project with several well known spam domains. But they were "clean" strange enough...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At my old blog I had several Google Redirect pages, starting with &lt;a href="http://google.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="google.com"&gt;google.com&lt;/a&gt; and then the spam domain. Tough to track but also simply banned &lt;a href="http://google.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="google.com"&gt;google.com&lt;/a&gt; at the end.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">geld lenen</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 07:26:38 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-12527631</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah :) It's happen!!&lt;br&gt;I 'm check the comment every time and delete a spam comment from people.&lt;br&gt;I truly agree with you.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">JBiggs</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 07:47:36 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-10993222</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah :) It's happen!!&lt;br&gt;I 'm check the comment every time and delete a spam comment from people.&lt;br&gt;I truly agree with you.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">JBiggs</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 07:47:36 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-10993221</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Laugh at me if you will, but is there much performance difference between askminet and spam karma?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">David Deangelo</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:19:31 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-12527630</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Laugh at me if you will, but is there much performance difference between askminet and spam karma?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">David Deangelo</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:19:31 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Google Groups Comment Spam</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1199/google-groups-comment-spam.html#comment-12527629</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Catherine for me it is, though it can also be used in conjunction with Akismet as mentioned above.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is the basic configuration I use on many of my blogs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/05/akismet-spam-karma.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://andybeard.eu/2007/05/akismet-spam-karma.html"&gt;http://andybeard.eu/2007/05...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;On this one I have modified them a little, it is slightly more work to maintain but as I tend to reply to comments fairly often, having to approve most first time comments isn't a problem.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">AndyBeard</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:56:01 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>