DISQUS

mblair · 2 years ago

Thanks for the great analysis. I just read Alister's post a few hours ago and have been thinking about it all day -- now I have a whole lot more to chew on :-)

I'm sure a lot of these factors are tuned in a variety of ways. I'd think Google would be in the habit of fingerprinting and classifying sites by characteristics (blogs, forums, etc) and gradually tuning the algorithms for performance based upon whatever metadata about the pages that they can glean.

I'm wondering if in many cases they aren't yet implementing everything they would like to in this regard because the processing power gets too expensive (in terms of CPU time, not $$), even for them.

mblair · 2 years ago

Thanks for the great analysis. I just read Alister's post a few hours ago and have been thinking about it all day -- now I have a whole lot more to chew on :-)

I'm sure a lot of these factors are tuned in a variety of ways. I'd think Google would be in the habit of fingerprinting and classifying sites by characteristics (blogs, forums, etc) and gradually tuning the algorithms for performance based upon whatever metadata about the pages that they can glean.

I'm wondering if in many cases they aren't yet implementing everything they would like to in this regard because the processing power gets too expensive (in terms of CPU time, not $$), even for them.

Alister Cameron // Blogologist · 2 years ago

Andy,

You da man!

I need time to digest what you've written here and it's a way busy day, so I'll have to come back to you as soon as I can give your response the thoughtful response it deserves.

Thanks you so much. The blogosphere is a better place for your efforts :)

-Alister

Alister Cameron // Blogologist · 2 years ago

Andy,

You da man!

I need time to digest what you've written here and it's a way busy day, so I'll have to come back to you as soon as I can give your response the thoughtful response it deserves.

Thanks you so much. The blogosphere is a better place for your efforts :)

-Alister

Ryan · 2 years ago

Super, super post.

Great reference material, once again!

Keep them coming my man!

Ryan · 2 years ago

Super, super post.

Great reference material, once again!

Keep them coming my man!

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Matt Jones · 2 years ago

Interesting stuff.... the basic conclusion is that we need more quanitative data about who/how many people use Google blogsearch.

Matt Jones · 2 years ago

Interesting stuff.... the basic conclusion is that we need more quanitative data about who/how many people use Google blogsearch.

Balazs Balint · 2 years ago

The more I read about Google Blogsearch the more I think it is great! Fresh contents a really well ranked. But will I write posts in every hour:)?

Balazs Balint · 2 years ago

The more I read about Google Blogsearch the more I think it is great! Fresh contents a really well ranked. But will I write posts in every hour:)?

Vlad · 2 years ago

My blog no where to be found in Google Blog Searh results. I just tried to search for "What To Do With Unwanted Traffic"- as you can see Plugim shows for my post but my own post not even there on the last page. Any suggestions?

Vlad · 2 years ago

My blog no where to be found in Google Blog Searh results. I just tried to search for "What To Do With Unwanted Traffic"- as you can see Plugim shows for my post but my own post not even there on the last page. Any suggestions?

AndyBeard · 2 years ago

What I use is the Feedburner Pingshot service rather than pinging myself. The only site I ping is Feedburner.

I honestly don't know whether that is a better option than pinging a long list, but I do know the list of sites that pick up my content in the stats is quite long, and always has been while using Feedburner for this.

With Pingshot, you do have to select a few extra services, because not all of them are defaulted, and some effectively duplicate some submissions.

There are other ways to ping, including pinging directly, web based services, various software apps, and scripts etc.

AndyBeard · 2 years ago

What I use is the Feedburner Pingshot service rather than pinging myself. The only site I ping is Feedburner.

I honestly don't know whether that is a better option than pinging a long list, but I do know the list of sites that pick up my content in the stats is quite long, and always has been while using Feedburner for this.

With Pingshot, you do have to select a few extra services, because not all of them are defaulted, and some effectively duplicate some submissions.

There are other ways to ping, including pinging directly, web based services, various software apps, and scripts etc.

Vlad · 2 years ago

Few weeks ago I cleaned up the list for pinging in my WordPress, not even FeedBurner. But I do have an option that FeedBurner pings other services when it finds new content on my blog. I do use SiteMap plugin, but that should not affect the Google Blog searh, at least I do not think so.

Vlad · 2 years ago

Few weeks ago I cleaned up the list for pinging in my WordPress, not even FeedBurner. But I do have an option that FeedBurner pings other services when it finds new content on my blog. I do use SiteMap plugin, but that should not affect the Google Blog searh, at least I do not think so.

Vlad · 2 years ago

Just wanted to add that I may just delete my feed from PlugIm, I have noticed that on several occasions it outranked me. Right know it picks up my feed through FeedBurner... Do you think I should just give them the feed straight from my website?

AndyBeard · 2 years ago

Read my post about timing of link attribution - it is going to happen regardless until you have more authority, but check the results 2 weeks later and you will most likely rank higher.

Most syndication sites have quite high throughput of content, thus specific items rarely rank highly for long.
p.s. I am sure you are going to love the post I just wrote on PRWeb

Vlad · 2 years ago

I did not realize PRWeb has an affiliate program. Good incentive, no good for me ;) I already have an account with PRWeb.

On the Google Blog Search subject. It lookes like my blog is indexed there. If I look it up by the domain all my posts (including "What To Do With Unwanted Traffic") are there.

AndyBeard · 2 years ago

As far as I am aware they don't have an affiliate program, this was a special deal Ponn managed to set up, after some discussions with the guy running the courses on PRWeb.

If you read my post carefully, you might notice that I mentioned that existing customers can also qualify, and Ponn in her post gave very specific instructions on how to do that.

You have been looking to test the higher priced press releases, so give it a try... on the house

Vlad · 2 years ago

You right Andy,

I did overlooked the "rules" part. Thanks for pointing out!

Vlad · 2 years ago

Just wanted to add that I may just delete my feed from PlugIm, I have noticed that on several occasions it outranked me. Right know it picks up my feed through FeedBurner... Do you think I should just give them the feed straight from my website?

AndyBeard · 2 years ago

Read my post about timing of link attribution - it is going to happen regardless until you have more authority, but check the results 2 weeks later and you will most likely rank higher.

Most syndication sites have quite high throughput of content, thus specific items rarely rank highly for long.
p.s. I am sure you are going to love the post I just wrote on PRWeb

Vlad · 2 years ago

I did not realize PRWeb has an affiliate program. Good incentive, no good for me ;) I already have an account with PRWeb.

On the Google Blog Search subject. It lookes like my blog is indexed there. If I look it up by the domain all my posts (including "What To Do With Unwanted Traffic") are there.

AndyBeard · 2 years ago

As far as I am aware they don't have an affiliate program, this was a special deal Ponn managed to set up, after some discussions with the guy running the courses on PRWeb.

If you read my post carefully, you might notice that I mentioned that existing customers can also qualify, and Ponn in her post gave very specific instructions on how to do that.

You have been looking to test the higher priced press releases, so give it a try... on the house

Vlad · 2 years ago

You right Andy,

I did overlooked the "rules" part. Thanks for pointing out!

Hassan · 2 years ago

Very informative and also I like the other sources you link to! I just started my blog and trying to learn all about bloging!!

Hassan · 2 years ago

Very informative and also I like the other sources you link to! I just started my blog and trying to learn all about bloging!!

bhupen · 2 years ago

Loved your invaluable suggestion. Thought this might of interest to you although it is not related.

Say you had a blog setup as a folder example
http://www.nepalvista.com/blog

and you submitted to google blog search. It started indexing
later you realize that you actually wanted a subdomain
so you created a subdomain http://blog.nepalvista.com/

Now google shows both in their blog search although the old URL brings up a page with meta nofollow,noindex. Does google not see that tag ?

Is there a way to tell google not to index http://www.nepalvista.com/blog
but index the subdomain, perhaps using robots.txt Even so, how to do this ? because the subdomain is actually pointing to the folder. If I add Disallow : http://www.nepalvista.com/blog
would be same as Disallow : http://blog.nepalvista.com/ ?

I would greatly appreciate if you anyone can help me with this. I think google should allow not just blog pinging but also removing a blog from its index. Is that available, where? I am in vain.

Thank you everyone, blogging seems to be fun, not it does come with lots of pain!

bhupen · 2 years ago

Loved your invaluable suggestion. Thought this might of interest to you although it is not related.

Say you had a blog setup as a folder example
http://www.nepalvista.com/blog

and you submitted to google blog search. It started indexing
later you realize that you actually wanted a subdomain
so you created a subdomain http://blog.nepalvista.com/

Now google shows both in their blog search although the old URL brings up a page with meta nofollow,noindex. Does google not see that tag ?

Is there a way to tell google not to index http://www.nepalvista.com/blog
but index the subdomain, perhaps using robots.txt Even so, how to do this ? because the subdomain is actually pointing to the folder. If I add Disallow : http://www.nepalvista.com/blog
would be same as Disallow : http://blog.nepalvista.com/ ?

I would greatly appreciate if you anyone can help me with this. I think google should allow not just blog pinging but also removing a blog from its index. Is that available, where? I am in vain.

Thank you everyone, blogging seems to be fun, not it does come with lots of pain!

AndyBeard · 2 years ago

You need to set up a 301 redirect from the old to the new if there were any backlinks (and there will be if you pinged anything)

Eventually Google will work it out.

Also maybe there is still something in your config of Wordpress that is set to the old folder.

The big question is why have it on the subdomain, unless the blog is totally unrelated to your main website. You lose out on lots of SEO benefits because the links and traffics are related to a different domain.

AndyBeard · 2 years ago

You need to set up a 301 redirect from the old to the new if there were any backlinks (and there will be if you pinged anything)

Eventually Google will work it out.

Also maybe there is still something in your config of Wordpress that is set to the old folder.

The big question is why have it on the subdomain, unless the blog is totally unrelated to your main website. You lose out on lots of SEO benefits because the links and traffics are related to a different domain.

Joshua Dorkin · 1 year ago

Andy -
Great post! I didn't realize that Feedburner Pingshot now goes to Google Blogsearch. I've got 2 questions for you.

1 - What ping services do you recommend using through your own blog is you're using the feedburner pingshot? Would you recommend getting rid of pingomatic and the rest of them?

2 - I'm interested in getting a forum into the BlogSearch results. I see other forums there and can't quite find any answers on how to do it. We've also got a feed for the forum on feedburner, and as of today, added Google Blogsearch to the pingshot options. Have any other thoughts or suggestions on this one?

Thanks for reading, and I look forward to the answers!

Joshua Dorkin · 1 year ago

Andy -
Great post! I didn't realize that Feedburner Pingshot now goes to Google Blogsearch. I've got 2 questions for you.

1 - What ping services do you recommend using through your own blog is you're using the feedburner pingshot? Would you recommend getting rid of pingomatic and the rest of them?

2 - I'm interested in getting a forum into the BlogSearch results. I see other forums there and can't quite find any answers on how to do it. We've also got a feed for the forum on feedburner, and as of today, added Google Blogsearch to the pingshot options. Have any other thoughts or suggestions on this one?

Thanks for reading, and I look forward to the answers!

Brooke · 1 year ago

I hope you can help me out with this:

I am currently using a Wordpress installation for my blog about an upcoming video game called Warhammer Online. I have Warhammer Online set up in my "All in one SEO" plugin so that it is present in the title of every page on my blog and 90% of my posts are tagged with the term as well.

I used to appear in Google BlogSearch but all of a sudden it stopped showing me. I'm not showing up in Google Alerts for that term anymore either. There isn't very much competition for this term in Google and my site has arguably better SEO than most (though maybe my current situation disproves that...).

I haven't been able to figure out why Google has given me such hate in BlogSearch. I am the top ranked site if you search "Warhammer Online blog" in regular search and I rank top or highly for several other related terms as well.

What am I doing wrong?

Brooke · 1 year ago

I hope you can help me out with this:

I am currently using a Wordpress installation for my blog about an upcoming video game called Warhammer Online. I have Warhammer Online set up in my "All in one SEO" plugin so that it is present in the title of every page on my blog and 90% of my posts are tagged with the term as well.

I used to appear in Google BlogSearch but all of a sudden it stopped showing me. I'm not showing up in Google Alerts for that term anymore either. There isn't very much competition for this term in Google and my site has arguably better SEO than most (though maybe my current situation disproves that...).

I haven't been able to figure out why Google has given me such hate in BlogSearch. I am the top ranked site if you search "Warhammer Online blog" in regular search and I rank top or highly for several other related terms as well.

What am I doing wrong?