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Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

SEO — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 07:58:03 -0000

Thanks for enlightment. I was in debates about removing adsense from our site and you have just made my decision for me. It will be off there by the end of today. Thanks for the very useful information.

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

SEO — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 07:58:03 -0000

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

re-route.co.uk — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:39:03 -0000

Google flexing their arms of steel again, not sure the comments in reference to Eastern Europe is fair but hey just my view... Spend a lot of time in Poland great people.
Glad I found the blog ... keep up the hard work
steve

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

re-route.co.uk — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:39:03 -0000

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

monkey — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:03:09 -0000

CzeÅ›Ä‡!

I haven't been to Poland, Russia or China if the standard of living is so good in Poland how come all the Polish are now in England :)

But I think in any country you have areas of Good living and areas of Bad i've lived in many countries and traveled alot! And just didn't think that such a sweeping statement was relevant.

Anyway I don't want to be a protagonist :)

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

monkey — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:03:09 -0000

CzeÅ›Ä‡!

I haven't been to Poland, Russia or China if the standard of living is so good in Poland how come all the Polish are now in England :)

But I think in any country you have areas of Good living and areas of Bad i've lived in many countries and traveled alot! And just didn't think that such a sweeping statement was relevant.

Anyway I don't want to be a protagonist :)

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

AndyBeard — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:41:35 -0000

Vijay just check out Problogger for general blogging and Adsense tutorials, I don't try to duplicate the wealth of information already available.

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

AndyBeard — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:41:35 -0000

Vijay just check out Problogger for general blogging and Adsense tutorials, I don't try to duplicate the wealth of information already available.

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

AndyBeard — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:32:22 -0000

Mike there could be some regulatory reasons, but that wouldn't account for Darren in Australia and all the Europeans who are not in the EU.

Thus the changes seem to me to be based on regional offices.

There would only need to be a partial fluctuation in earnings for Google to identify a growing problem, that if it got out of hand, could affect their bottom line.

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

AndyBeard — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:32:22 -0000

Mike there could be some regulatory reasons, but that wouldn't account for Darren in Australia and all the Europeans who are not in the EU.

Thus the changes seem to me to be based on regional offices.

There would only need to be a partial fluctuation in earnings for Google to identify a growing problem, that if it got out of hand, could affect their bottom line.

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

AndyBeard — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:15:30 -0000

Darren the existing referrals thing really worries me. There are tons of sites that spend money on PPC to promote make money with Adsense guides that derive part of their income from Adsense referrals on the back end.

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

AndyBeard — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:15:30 -0000

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

AndyBeard — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:13:29 -0000

Monkey, I don't pander to saying things that are politically correct. I live in Poland - as far as I know the general standard of living in Poland is slightly higher than Russia, though in Russia and China there are extreme exceptions and some of the most wealthy people in the world.
How many of the 1 billion people in China have a PC at home and permanent internet connections?

I thought about doing a version of this when the new rates were introduced. Set up 25+ family members with enough websites to earn $100 over a few months, and earn 25x330$ for myself in the process. The only difference would be those sites would have been in their names, and they would have continued to earn a residual income for them.

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

AndyBeard — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:13:29 -0000

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

AndyBeard — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:57:31 -0000

I did try to cover it in the post, but it comes down to corporate logistics and possibly Euro laws.
Lots of Google operations are out of a central office in Europe for instance, thus the same people will be handling things for people living in different countries.
I would think Japan might be a separate territory compared to the rest of Asia Pacific.

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

AndyBeard — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:57:31 -0000

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

Vijay — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:29:36 -0000

Thats a pretty informative post on google adsense, one of the most complex money making mechanisms that I have ever come across. I would also like to know about the Page rank mechanism that google adopts and also the indexing stuff as Im a novice in this field of blogging. Love to get some help from some one so experienced. Thanks and Cheers!!!

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Vijay — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:29:36 -0000

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

Mike - Twenty Steps — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:22:36 -0000

I understand where you're coming from on this one, Andy, but I'm not convinced that large scale fraudulent use from Eastern Europe is what sits behind this. I'm not denying that what you've outlined is not only possible but also very probable but would that really be the sole reasoning behind these changes?

I'll say now that apart from thinking that they're a bunch of clueless numpty megalomaniacs, I have no other answer but the timing of all this post PR slap combined with more publishers complaining about smart pricing seems odd to me and, as TzuVelli points out, the DoubleClick deal.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, the deal has been approved by the FTC (i.e. it'll be OK for US publishers) but not by the EU. Coincidence?

Ackk...maybe I've been reading Graywolf too much ;)

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

Mike - Twenty Steps — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:22:36 -0000

Now correct me if I'm wrong, the deal has been approved by the FTC (i.e. it'll be OK for US publishers) but not by the EU. Coincidence?

Ackk...maybe I've been reading Graywolf too much ;)

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

Matt — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:26:47 -0000

Darren and Andy, Read both your posts and I have to agree. Blacklisting an entire region or country from participating in the referral program sounds silly to me.

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

Matt — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:26:47 -0000

Darren and Andy, Read both your posts and I have to agree. Blacklisting an entire region or country from participating in the referral program sounds silly to me.

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

Darren — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:27:34 -0000

good post Andy - linked up in mine.

I can understand the need to tweak a program like this - it's just business. But there are numerous levels that are just plain crazy in what they've announced. Either kill the whole program off and payout publishers on what they've referred, tweak the payouts for everyone or do something else that's consistent.

Crazy stuff.

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

Darren — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:27:34 -0000

good post Andy - linked up in mine.

Crazy stuff.

Re: Google Adsense Referral Hydra Had To Be Clobbered

monkey — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:50:53 -0000

Sorry Andy I haven't been a subscriber for long but I have to wonder how you can justify a statement like 'Especially if you were living in a slightly poorer country, or had contacts in oneâ€¦ China, Russia..' ???