Very good point. But, I wonder why they have scaled the program back to only the U.S., South America, and Japan? I also wonder about the timing of their decision coinciding with their purchase of DoubleClick.
AndyBeard
· 1 year ago
I did try to cover it in the post, but it comes down to corporate logistics and possibly Euro laws. Lots of Google operations are out of a central office in Europe for instance, thus the same people will be handling things for people living in different countries. I would think Japan might be a separate territory compared to the rest of Asia Pacific.
TzuVelli
· 1 year ago
Very good point. But, I wonder why they have scaled the program back to only the U.S., South America, and Japan? I also wonder about the timing of their decision coinciding with their purchase of DoubleClick.
AndyBeard
· 1 year ago
I did try to cover it in the post, but it comes down to corporate logistics and possibly Euro laws. Lots of Google operations are out of a central office in Europe for instance, thus the same people will be handling things for people living in different countries. I would think Japan might be a separate territory compared to the rest of Asia Pacific.
SlightlyShadySEO
· 1 year ago
1)Thanks for the mention :-) 2)Yeah, I was actually thinking of such things. More specifically, for MSN AdCenter, I was considering offering to pay my users back their $5 activation fee. Trying to avoid excessive sketchiness until I'm sure how they detect such things. I really assumed they would have had a way to ensure this doesn't happen by now. Oh well!
SlightlyShadySEO
· 1 year ago
1)Thanks for the mention :-) 2)Yeah, I was actually thinking of such things. More specifically, for MSN AdCenter, I was considering offering to pay my users back their $5 activation fee. Trying to avoid excessive sketchiness until I'm sure how they detect such things. I really assumed they would have had a way to ensure this doesn't happen by now. Oh well!
monkey
· 1 year ago
Sorry Andy I haven't been a subscriber for long but I have to wonder how you can justify a statement like 'Especially if you were living in a slightly poorer country, or had contacts in one… China, Russia..' ???
AndyBeard
· 1 year ago
Monkey, I don't pander to saying things that are politically correct. I live in Poland - as far as I know the general standard of living in Poland is slightly higher than Russia, though in Russia and China there are extreme exceptions and some of the most wealthy people in the world. How many of the 1 billion people in China have a PC at home and permanent internet connections?
I thought about doing a version of this when the new rates were introduced. Set up 25+ family members with enough websites to earn $100 over a few months, and earn 25x330$ for myself in the process. The only difference would be those sites would have been in their names, and they would have continued to earn a residual income for them.
monkey
· 1 year ago
Cześć!
I haven't been to Poland, Russia or China if the standard of living is so good in Poland how come all the Polish are now in England :)
But I think in any country you have areas of Good living and areas of Bad i've lived in many countries and traveled alot! And just didn't think that such a sweeping statement was relevant.
Anyway I don't want to be a protagonist :)
monkey
· 1 year ago
Sorry Andy I haven't been a subscriber for long but I have to wonder how you can justify a statement like 'Especially if you were living in a slightly poorer country, or had contacts in one… China, Russia..' ???
AndyBeard
· 1 year ago
Monkey, I don't pander to saying things that are politically correct. I live in Poland - as far as I know the general standard of living in Poland is slightly higher than Russia, though in Russia and China there are extreme exceptions and some of the most wealthy people in the world. How many of the 1 billion people in China have a PC at home and permanent internet connections?
I thought about doing a version of this when the new rates were introduced. Set up 25+ family members with enough websites to earn $100 over a few months, and earn 25x330$ for myself in the process. The only difference would be those sites would have been in their names, and they would have continued to earn a residual income for them.
monkey
· 1 year ago
Cześć!
I haven't been to Poland, Russia or China if the standard of living is so good in Poland how come all the Polish are now in England :)
But I think in any country you have areas of Good living and areas of Bad i've lived in many countries and traveled alot! And just didn't think that such a sweeping statement was relevant.
Anyway I don't want to be a protagonist :)
Darren
· 1 year ago
good post Andy - linked up in mine.
I can understand the need to tweak a program like this - it's just business. But there are numerous levels that are just plain crazy in what they've announced. Either kill the whole program off and payout publishers on what they've referred, tweak the payouts for everyone or do something else that's consistent.
Crazy stuff.
AndyBeard
· 1 year ago
Darren the existing referrals thing really worries me. There are tons of sites that spend money on PPC to promote make money with Adsense guides that derive part of their income from Adsense referrals on the back end.
Darren
· 1 year ago
good post Andy - linked up in mine.
I can understand the need to tweak a program like this - it's just business. But there are numerous levels that are just plain crazy in what they've announced. Either kill the whole program off and payout publishers on what they've referred, tweak the payouts for everyone or do something else that's consistent.
Crazy stuff.
AndyBeard
· 1 year ago
Darren the existing referrals thing really worries me. There are tons of sites that spend money on PPC to promote make money with Adsense guides that derive part of their income from Adsense referrals on the back end.
Matt
· 1 year ago
Darren and Andy, Read both your posts and I have to agree. Blacklisting an entire region or country from participating in the referral program sounds silly to me.
Matt
· 1 year ago
Darren and Andy, Read both your posts and I have to agree. Blacklisting an entire region or country from participating in the referral program sounds silly to me.
Mike - Twenty Steps
· 1 year ago
I understand where you're coming from on this one, Andy, but I'm not convinced that large scale fraudulent use from Eastern Europe is what sits behind this. I'm not denying that what you've outlined is not only possible but also very probable but would that really be the sole reasoning behind these changes?
I'll say now that apart from thinking that they're a bunch of clueless numpty megalomaniacs, I have no other answer but the timing of all this post PR slap combined with more publishers complaining about smart pricing seems odd to me and, as TzuVelli points out, the DoubleClick deal.
Now correct me if I'm wrong, the deal has been approved by the FTC (i.e. it'll be OK for US publishers) but not by the EU. Coincidence?
Ackk...maybe I've been reading Graywolf too much ;)
AndyBeard
· 1 year ago
Mike there could be some regulatory reasons, but that wouldn't account for Darren in Australia and all the Europeans who are not in the EU.
Thus the changes seem to me to be based on regional offices.
There would only need to be a partial fluctuation in earnings for Google to identify a growing problem, that if it got out of hand, could affect their bottom line.
Mike - Twenty Steps
· 1 year ago
I understand where you're coming from on this one, Andy, but I'm not convinced that large scale fraudulent use from Eastern Europe is what sits behind this. I'm not denying that what you've outlined is not only possible but also very probable but would that really be the sole reasoning behind these changes?
I'll say now that apart from thinking that they're a bunch of clueless numpty megalomaniacs, I have no other answer but the timing of all this post PR slap combined with more publishers complaining about smart pricing seems odd to me and, as TzuVelli points out, the DoubleClick deal.
Now correct me if I'm wrong, the deal has been approved by the FTC (i.e. it'll be OK for US publishers) but not by the EU. Coincidence?
Ackk...maybe I've been reading Graywolf too much ;)
AndyBeard
· 1 year ago
Mike there could be some regulatory reasons, but that wouldn't account for Darren in Australia and all the Europeans who are not in the EU.
Thus the changes seem to me to be based on regional offices.
There would only need to be a partial fluctuation in earnings for Google to identify a growing problem, that if it got out of hand, could affect their bottom line.
Vijay
· 1 year ago
Thats a pretty informative post on google adsense, one of the most complex money making mechanisms that I have ever come across. I would also like to know about the Page rank mechanism that google adopts and also the indexing stuff as Im a novice in this field of blogging. Love to get some help from some one so experienced. Thanks and Cheers!!!
Vijay
· 1 year ago
Thats a pretty informative post on google adsense, one of the most complex money making mechanisms that I have ever come across. I would also like to know about the Page rank mechanism that google adopts and also the indexing stuff as Im a novice in this field of blogging. Love to get some help from some one so experienced. Thanks and Cheers!!!
AndyBeard
· 1 year ago
Vijay just check out Problogger for general blogging and Adsense tutorials, I don't try to duplicate the wealth of information already available.
AndyBeard
· 1 year ago
Vijay just check out Problogger for general blogging and Adsense tutorials, I don't try to duplicate the wealth of information already available.
re-route.co.uk
· 1 year ago
Google flexing their arms of steel again, not sure the comments in reference to Eastern Europe is fair but hey just my view... Spend a lot of time in Poland great people. Glad I found the blog ... keep up the hard work steve
re-route.co.uk
· 1 year ago
Google flexing their arms of steel again, not sure the comments in reference to Eastern Europe is fair but hey just my view... Spend a lot of time in Poland great people. Glad I found the blog ... keep up the hard work steve
SEO
· 1 year ago
Thanks for enlightment. I was in debates about removing adsense from our site and you have just made my decision for me. It will be off there by the end of today. Thanks for the very useful information.
SEO
· 1 year ago
Thanks for enlightment. I was in debates about removing adsense from our site and you have just made my decision for me. It will be off there by the end of today. Thanks for the very useful information.
All Comments
Lots of Google operations are out of a central office in Europe for instance, thus the same people will be handling things for people living in different countries.
I would think Japan might be a separate territory compared to the rest of Asia Pacific.
Lots of Google operations are out of a central office in Europe for instance, thus the same people will be handling things for people living in different countries.
I would think Japan might be a separate territory compared to the rest of Asia Pacific.
2)Yeah, I was actually thinking of such things. More specifically, for MSN AdCenter, I was considering offering to pay my users back their $5 activation fee. Trying to avoid excessive sketchiness until I'm sure how they detect such things.
I really assumed they would have had a way to ensure this doesn't happen by now. Oh well!
2)Yeah, I was actually thinking of such things. More specifically, for MSN AdCenter, I was considering offering to pay my users back their $5 activation fee. Trying to avoid excessive sketchiness until I'm sure how they detect such things.
I really assumed they would have had a way to ensure this doesn't happen by now. Oh well!
How many of the 1 billion people in China have a PC at home and permanent internet connections?
I thought about doing a version of this when the new rates were introduced. Set up 25+ family members with enough websites to earn $100 over a few months, and earn 25x330$ for myself in the process. The only difference would be those sites would have been in their names, and they would have continued to earn a residual income for them.
I haven't been to Poland, Russia or China if the standard of living is so good in Poland how come all the Polish are now in England :)
But I think in any country you have areas of Good living and areas of Bad i've lived in many countries and traveled alot! And just didn't think that such a sweeping statement was relevant.
Anyway I don't want to be a protagonist :)
How many of the 1 billion people in China have a PC at home and permanent internet connections?
I thought about doing a version of this when the new rates were introduced. Set up 25+ family members with enough websites to earn $100 over a few months, and earn 25x330$ for myself in the process. The only difference would be those sites would have been in their names, and they would have continued to earn a residual income for them.
I haven't been to Poland, Russia or China if the standard of living is so good in Poland how come all the Polish are now in England :)
But I think in any country you have areas of Good living and areas of Bad i've lived in many countries and traveled alot! And just didn't think that such a sweeping statement was relevant.
Anyway I don't want to be a protagonist :)
I can understand the need to tweak a program like this - it's just business. But there are numerous levels that are just plain crazy in what they've announced. Either kill the whole program off and payout publishers on what they've referred, tweak the payouts for everyone or do something else that's consistent.
Crazy stuff.
I can understand the need to tweak a program like this - it's just business. But there are numerous levels that are just plain crazy in what they've announced. Either kill the whole program off and payout publishers on what they've referred, tweak the payouts for everyone or do something else that's consistent.
Crazy stuff.
I'll say now that apart from thinking that they're a bunch of clueless numpty megalomaniacs, I have no other answer but the timing of all this post PR slap combined with more publishers complaining about smart pricing seems odd to me and, as TzuVelli points out, the DoubleClick deal.
Now correct me if I'm wrong, the deal has been approved by the FTC (i.e. it'll be OK for US publishers) but not by the EU. Coincidence?
Ackk...maybe I've been reading Graywolf too much ;)
Thus the changes seem to me to be based on regional offices.
There would only need to be a partial fluctuation in earnings for Google to identify a growing problem, that if it got out of hand, could affect their bottom line.
I'll say now that apart from thinking that they're a bunch of clueless numpty megalomaniacs, I have no other answer but the timing of all this post PR slap combined with more publishers complaining about smart pricing seems odd to me and, as TzuVelli points out, the DoubleClick deal.
Now correct me if I'm wrong, the deal has been approved by the FTC (i.e. it'll be OK for US publishers) but not by the EU. Coincidence?
Ackk...maybe I've been reading Graywolf too much ;)
Thus the changes seem to me to be based on regional offices.
There would only need to be a partial fluctuation in earnings for Google to identify a growing problem, that if it got out of hand, could affect their bottom line.
Glad I found the blog ... keep up the hard work
steve
Glad I found the blog ... keep up the hard work
steve