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Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

Sean — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:40:55 -0000

Andrew, you have pointed out the reasons I got frustrated with Friendfeed. The slow stumble upon updates were ridiculous. Who wants things 8 hours late? By then they are old and newer information likely replaces it. Also, why wouldn't you just comment on a post or tweet through the respective source? It's just flawed. Also, as Lyndon pointed out, it seems these sites are popping up like crazy; same stuff, new mix. It's getting old real fast. Friendfeed has some potential, but it has some critical flaws to fix. (Which may have been fixed, but I'm tried around this post date.)

-Sean

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

Sean — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:40:55 -0000

-Sean

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

AndyBeard — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:04:51 -0000

Owen you will probably find having been involved with so many projects whilst at Google, that they know a lot of the founders of the services they support.

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

AndyBeard — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:04:51 -0000

Owen you will probably find having been involved with so many projects whilst at Google, that they know a lot of the founders of the services they support.

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

ojbyrne — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:56:56 -0000

I find the site interesting because the only way they can get that data is via APIs. But almost all of those companies don't allow commercial use without approval. I'm curious as to whether they got approval or just went ahead and did it without approval. Since there are no ads that might be ok - until they raise x million dollars (as they did recently), at which point it seems clearly to be commercial.

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

ojbyrne — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:56:56 -0000

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

Nicole Simon (Berlin, Germany) — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:43:50 -0000

It's starts with more basic flaws than that - thousand ways to include data, but no way to exclude it, making redundent data over and over again. Plus as you said - you rather go to the source than to have it scattered in million places ...

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

Nicole Simon (Berlin, Germany) — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:43:50 -0000

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

AndyBeard — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:56:23 -0000

Paul I just sent this to you by email so you get it quicker. This is the RSS feed you need to use
http://www.stumbleupon.com/...

It just has an extra parameter on the end to include the comments.

You would actually have to use both, because the version with comments only includes those sites you have written a review for.

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

AndyBeard — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:56:23 -0000

Paul I just sent this to you by email so you get it quicker. This is the RSS feed you need to use
http://www.stumbleupon.com/...

It just has an extra parameter on the end to include the comments.

You would actually have to use both, because the version with comments only includes those sites you have written a review for.

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

AndyBeard — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:54:00 -0000

Hi Martin

Sorry but I haven't even tried to get a beta invite - they normally involve some kind of non-disclosure agreement, and as I am partially involved with Blogcatalog, it wouldn't be right for me to apply.

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

AndyBeard — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:54:00 -0000

Hi Martin

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

Paul Buchheit — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:33:11 -0000

Thanks for the feedback Andy.

Feeds should all update within about 30 minutes, and many will update within a minute or two. I'm looking into why your Stumbleupon feed is taking longer to update -- that certainly sounds like a problem.

Also, including your Stumbleupon comments would be a nice feature, but they don't appear to be included in the Stumbleupon RSS feed: http://www.stumbleupon.com/...

Thanks

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

Paul Buchheit — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:33:11 -0000

Thanks for the feedback Andy.

Also, including your Stumbleupon comments would be a nice feature, but they don't appear to be included in the Stumbleupon RSS feed: http://www.stumbleupon.com/...

Thanks

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

Jim — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:56:02 -0000

That looks like an interesting service, with lots of flaws as you have pointed out. I came across FriendFeed in my usual rounds around the blogging world, and thought it was something to come back to. I don't like the fact that they don't search through websites often enough, you mentioned "clumps of posts" and such. Thanks for the update, it is good to hear what others are saying before you dive right in ;)

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

Jim — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:56:02 -0000

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

Martin Espericueta — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:36:26 -0000

Very interesting Andy. So can I get a fla.vo.it beta invite from you?

Martin

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

Martin Espericueta — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:36:26 -0000

Very interesting Andy. So can I get a fla.vo.it beta invite from you?

Martin

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

Lyndon — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:37:58 -0000

To me a lot of these new, twatty sites are just the same ingredients but mixed in a different way. The problem for me is if the people in my industry start using them, then I have to as well to know what they are talking about.

You may as well get a copy of Carp and build your own system.

Re: FriendFeed Flaws – The Wrong Kind Of Attention Grabbing

Lyndon — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:37:58 -0000

You may as well get a copy of Carp and build your own system.