You put rookie bloggers like me to shame. You raised the bar, the amount of work you put into this shows. Bravo!
I guess there is only one thing left to do...get rolling on payperpost. If PPP were smart they'd showcase your blog entry in a little video clip on their site...
Thanks for all you do!
David
David Ledoux
· 2 years ago
Good grief Andy, this review is incredible!
You put rookie bloggers like me to shame. You raised the bar, the amount of work you put into this shows. Bravo!
I guess there is only one thing left to do...get rolling on payperpost. If PPP were smart they'd showcase your blog entry in a little video clip on their site...
Thanks for all you do!
David
Allan Cheng
· 2 years ago
I found this site since the PayPerPost blog linked to it. This is an excellent review in depth and covered all bases. Great job.
Allan Cheng
· 2 years ago
I found this site since the PayPerPost blog linked to it. This is an excellent review in depth and covered all bases. Great job.
Anna
· 2 years ago
Very informative article! I've been trolling the PPP forums all day for information and here it all is in one neat package.
One thing to mention - the time for reviews has been increased to 6 hours which is even better than 4 (for some of the slower bloggers such as myself, hehe).
Thanks again for a great article. :)
-Anna
suni
· 2 years ago
Very exhaustive review. I wondered how it all worked between the three competitors. It will be interesting to see how this all unfolds in the long run. I wonder how much a blog like mine should fetch on this new system. I am still a little undecided about whether or not I will participate, but this information will definitely help me make a final decision about the whole thing. Thanks for posting this.
suni
· 2 years ago
Very exhaustive review. I wondered how it all worked between the three competitors. It will be interesting to see how this all unfolds in the long run. I wonder how much a blog like mine should fetch on this new system. I am still a little undecided about whether or not I will participate, but this information will definitely help me make a final decision about the whole thing. Thanks for posting this.
Anna
· 2 years ago
Very informative article! I've been trolling the PPP forums all day for information and here it all is in one neat package.
One thing to mention - the time for reviews has been increased to 6 hours which is even better than 4 (for some of the slower bloggers such as myself, hehe).
Thanks again for a great article. :)
-Anna
marcus
· 2 years ago
I was worried with the new rollout but I'm pretty excited about where My Thoughts is gonna go after reading your review. Thanks man.
marcus
· 2 years ago
I was worried with the new rollout but I'm pretty excited about where My Thoughts is gonna go after reading your review. Thanks man.
Tricia
· 2 years ago
Excellent review Andy. They should pay you for it. :) They have at least given you some love on the Payperpost blog.
One correction - for regular PPP opportunities bloggers now have 6 hours to reserve and write up a post, not four as you stated above.
I haven't heard yet how long we'll have to write a PPP direct review. I do know that the advertiser has four days to approve the review and if they don't approve it in that time it will automatically be reviewed. If they find something that they'd like changed in the review once it's done they supposedly can use the exchange dialog box to talk with the blogger and hash out the details or changes needed. Once a post is officially approved the blogger will be paid immediately. No waiting two weeks or 30 days. Immediate payment!
Tricia
· 2 years ago
Excellent review Andy. They should pay you for it. :) They have at least given you some love on the Payperpost blog.
One correction - for regular PPP opportunities bloggers now have 6 hours to reserve and write up a post, not four as you stated above.
I haven't heard yet how long we'll have to write a PPP direct review. I do know that the advertiser has four days to approve the review and if they don't approve it in that time it will automatically be reviewed. If they find something that they'd like changed in the review once it's done they supposedly can use the exchange dialog box to talk with the blogger and hash out the details or changes needed. Once a post is officially approved the blogger will be paid immediately. No waiting two weeks or 30 days. Immediate payment!
Ali
· 2 years ago
Very nice and looooong review, just the kind I like to read and write myself.
I've linked to you from my review of their new release.
Ali
· 2 years ago
Very nice and looooong review, just the kind I like to read and write myself.
I've linked to you from my review of their new release.
Bill Hartzer
· 2 years ago
Looks like Pay Per Post Direct is really going to give ReviewMe a run for its money with this new service. I'm still waiting for PayPerPost to approve me and several of my blogs--so far they have refused because I don't have links to the archives by date.
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
Just use one of the many sitemap plugins or construct something with customisable post listings and exec-php plugin, or use a custom template - Pearsonified published a sitemap template a while ago, can't remember if there were date archives.
One of the things about PayPerPost is that they have fairly strict rules for visible clues to the legitimacy of a blog. That might be looked on as a bad thing, but it does keep running costs to a minimum.
Ted Murphy isn't going to be the one turning up on your blog to approve your review posts, so things have to be fairly easy to spot.
Bill Hartzer
· 2 years ago
Looks like Pay Per Post Direct is really going to give ReviewMe a run for its money with this new service. I'm still waiting for PayPerPost to approve me and several of my blogs--so far they have refused because I don't have links to the archives by date.
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
Just use one of the many sitemap plugins or construct something with customisable post listings and exec-php plugin, or use a custom template - Pearsonified published a sitemap template a while ago, can't remember if there were date archives.
One of the things about PayPerPost is that they have fairly strict rules for visible clues to the legitimacy of a blog. That might be looked on as a bad thing, but it does keep running costs to a minimum.
Ted Murphy isn't going to be the one turning up on your blog to approve your review posts, so things have to be fairly easy to spot.
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
Apologies for the 4 / 6 hrs mistake, that has now been corrected.
This review did take me more than 4 hours, and honestly, if Ted had offered me money to write this review I wouldn't have accepted it. I meant what I said in the review that I would have been willing to pay Ted for providing this service, in fact many services charge a lot more than 10%.
As an example, if I was to provide some kind of telephone or VOIP consultancy service, the service provider would certainly keep more than 10% for processing, as do many affiliate programs with various processing charges.
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
Apologies for the 4 / 6 hrs mistake, that has now been corrected.
This review did take me more than 4 hours, and honestly, if Ted had offered me money to write this review I wouldn't have accepted it. I meant what I said in the review that I would have been willing to pay Ted for providing this service, in fact many services charge a lot more than 10%.
As an example, if I was to provide some kind of telephone or VOIP consultancy service, the service provider would certainly keep more than 10% for processing, as do many affiliate programs with various processing charges.
Deb
· 2 years ago
Great review. I'm looking forward to seeing how this works out and how it changes the flow of advertisers. Will they also see the value in moving their business this way. I appreciate the time put into this.
Deb
· 2 years ago
Great review. I'm looking forward to seeing how this works out and how it changes the flow of advertisers. Will they also see the value in moving their business this way. I appreciate the time put into this.
Jay Dwivedi
· 2 years ago
Andy, thanks for taking the time to write this review. I have been incredibly busy to get to it but did get a chance to read the announcement today. In my opinion, Internet was about disintermediation and in this case PayPerPost is doing exactly that. We are all business people and we understand that running a business costs money but in a transparent economy only companies like PPP can survive. I love the PayPerPost business model.
Jay Dwivedi
· 2 years ago
Andy, thanks for taking the time to write this review. I have been incredibly busy to get to it but did get a chance to read the announcement today. In my opinion, Internet was about disintermediation and in this case PayPerPost is doing exactly that. We are all business people and we understand that running a business costs money but in a transparent economy only companies like PPP can survive. I love the PayPerPost business model.
Jim Kukral
· 2 years ago
Yeah, geez, awesome review. Mine was way shorter, but man, c'mon, you're making us all look bad.
Seriously, good work.
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
Jim, you old-time bloggers can sit in your rocking chair and you will still make money from all the 100s of web properties you have a piece in. ;)
Us youngsters have to keep proving ourselves every day to scratch a living.
Jim Kukral
· 2 years ago
Yeah, geez, awesome review. Mine was way shorter, but man, c'mon, you're making us all look bad.
Seriously, good work.
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
Jim, you old-time bloggers can sit in your rocking chair and you will still make money from all the 100s of web properties you have a piece in. ;)
Us youngsters have to keep proving ourselves every day to scratch a living.
sukosaki
· 2 years ago
Excellent review. I am quite a new blogger, but I take everything I read seriously. I hope to one day be able to write such an excellent review. Good Job!
sukosaki
· 2 years ago
Excellent review. I am quite a new blogger, but I take everything I read seriously. I hope to one day be able to write such an excellent review. Good Job!
Steve's Tech Blog
· 2 years ago
Very nice article and it shows how much time you spend on it. Wow 4hours! That's dedication. I also spend many hours on non paid reviews. Like you, I care about what I write on.
Good work!
Steve's Tech Blog
· 2 years ago
Very nice article and it shows how much time you spend on it. Wow 4hours! That's dedication. I also spend many hours on non paid reviews. Like you, I care about what I write on.
Good work!
Jules
· 2 years ago
Great review Andy. I don't think any of those guys can touch this with any negative thoughts either.
Jules
· 2 years ago
Great review Andy. I don't think any of those guys can touch this with any negative thoughts either.
Cass
· 2 years ago
Awesome write up! I learned some things, and I've been postie for quite awhile, and have read all the blog entries they posted on this. The way you compared the cost to advertisers of teh different services was really eye opening. It was something I "knew", but had never really thought much about.
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
Cass I wouldn't realised the number worked that way at first glance until Dan mentioned them in the comments of my review of Sponsored Reviews.
I am still displaying links for Sponsored Reviews because I believe their pricing is in the same ballpark as PayPerPost, I just wish they would fix their ratings.
I have removed ReviewMe, they were just taking traffic and not converting. I have actually done the same to the RMP unit from PayPerPost a month or so back because that wasn't converting for me. Maybe in the new upgrade the landing page has been improved.
I am sure you know a lot more about knitting than I do, so every now and then I get to share a little of my marketing knowledge.
Cass
· 2 years ago
Awesome write up! I learned some things, and I've been postie for quite awhile, and have read all the blog entries they posted on this. The way you compared the cost to advertisers of teh different services was really eye opening. It was something I "knew", but had never really thought much about.
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
Cass I wouldn't realised the number worked that way at first glance until Dan mentioned them in the comments of my review of Sponsored Reviews.
I am still displaying links for Sponsored Reviews because I believe their pricing is in the same ballpark as PayPerPost, I just wish they would fix their ratings.
I have removed ReviewMe, they were just taking traffic and not converting. I have actually done the same to the RMP unit from PayPerPost a month or so back because that wasn't converting for me. Maybe in the new upgrade the landing page has been improved.
I am sure you know a lot more about knitting than I do, so every now and then I get to share a little of my marketing knowledge.
Kumiko
· 2 years ago
If PPP were smart, they'd have a marketplace like ReviewMe but better! Instead, they're getting promoted on your blog for free and taking money that advertisers are willing to pay you!
Kumiko how much traffic have you sent to ReviewMe from your sidebar widget, and how many reviews has it brought you?
ReviewMe doesn't provide any way for 2-way conversation with someone requesting a review, and even Sponsored Reviews only has a price negotiation based on sending numbers backwards and forwards.
Realistically, PPP are making somewhere between 0% and 5% from the advertiser, which for the facilities provided is an insanely good offer.
I have read everything that was written in your review, and in the comments, and you seem to be locked into a John Chow mindset, which isn't necessarily healthy.
PayPerPost will have a marketplace very shortly, I checked my facts extremely carefully before publishing this review, and spent a long time checking my statistics.
I am going to leave the link there, because I believe the comments on your blog post add something to the conversation, but I get the feeling you might not have read what I have written too carefully.
Kumiko
· 2 years ago
If PPP were smart, they'd have a marketplace like ReviewMe but better! Instead, they're getting promoted on your blog for free and taking money that advertisers are willing to pay you!
Kumiko how much traffic have you sent to ReviewMe from your sidebar widget, and how many reviews has it brought you?
ReviewMe doesn't provide any way for 2-way conversation with someone requesting a review, and even Sponsored Reviews only has a price negotiation based on sending numbers backwards and forwards.
Realistically, PPP are making somewhere between 0% and 5% from the advertiser, which for the facilities provided is an insanely good offer.
I have read everything that was written in your review, and in the comments, and you seem to be locked into a John Chow mindset, which isn't necessarily healthy.
PayPerPost will have a marketplace very shortly, I checked my facts extremely carefully before publishing this review, and spent a long time checking my statistics.
I am going to leave the link there, because I believe the comments on your blog post add something to the conversation, but I get the feeling you might not have read what I have written too carefully.
Beth
· 2 years ago
Have you read John Chow's review of PPP Direct? It doesn't matter what service others use, he still feels he is the oh mighty one. For goodness sakes he's asking people to buy him a beer now- and the idiots who worship him will do it! I'm all for PPP Direct. I'm starting low and I'll see how it goes.
Beth
· 2 years ago
Have you read John Chow's review of PPP Direct? It doesn't matter what service others use, he still feels he is the oh mighty one. For goodness sakes he's asking people to buy him a beer now- and the idiots who worship him will do it! I'm all for PPP Direct. I'm starting low and I'll see how it goes.
Mike
· 2 years ago
Really fantastic review, Andy. I was pretty excited to see this today on the PPP site. As one of the little guys of blogging I don't even qualify to do reviews for ReviewMe, so this gives me an opportunity to do what I couldn't do with them. Of course I don't know if advertisers will be beating down my virtual door, but hey at least it's an outlet which I couldn't have before :)
I think if I were an advertiser I'd be looking hard at this new service. It just makes sense.
Mike
· 2 years ago
Really fantastic review, Andy. I was pretty excited to see this today on the PPP site. As one of the little guys of blogging I don't even qualify to do reviews for ReviewMe, so this gives me an opportunity to do what I couldn't do with them. Of course I don't know if advertisers will be beating down my virtual door, but hey at least it's an outlet which I couldn't have before :)
I think if I were an advertiser I'd be looking hard at this new service. It just makes sense.
Kumiko
· 2 years ago
I've sent ReviewMe 596 clicks from my sidebar and I've been offered 5 reviews through them. I've received 4 offers for reviews directly that haven't required any middle-man at all.
I don't see PPP Direct offering anything that I can't do myself. Most big paying advertisers will not find my site through visiting it directly, but through a publisher marketplace. Any reviews that I'm offered directly from my site will generally be from my readers who it's easy to negotiate with directly.
PPP may have a publisher marketplace shortly, but they don't have one now and that's why I'm not using them. When they get a marketplace, I'll reconsider but until that time I'm just looking at what's available NOW!
I did read your review thoroughly and I'm offended that you'd assume otherwise. The most valid point you made was that they're providing an escrow service - however my advice to you would be that if you're not sure that the blogger will meet your requirements then you shouldn't order the review in the first place.
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
So the traffic you are sending to ReviewMe is converting at less than 1%, why not use a totally different logo linking through to a contact form for ordering reviews?
Your blog is currently being rated based on the fact you have 6 bloglines subscribers based upon the data ReviewMe use.
Based upon your total subscribers, I would think that number is rather low, and you should compare it with your actual Bloglines subscribers listed in Feedburner.
You have 3 different feeds for your blog, and those you need to merge within the Bloglines interface. The bug with ReviewMe and TLA is that they don't count merged feeds correctly.
Feedburner does pick up merged feeds correctly, thus you might have more subscribers than you think.
Effectively what you are doing is sending traffic to a very poorly converting squeeze page.
PPP Direct doesn't remove the option for negotiating a review directly, and handling payments directly.
There is one negative, because if you opt to set PPP Direct at a lower price, then if you are negotiating you are starting at a lower price point.
Nothing is forcing you to charge less for a PPP Direct review.
Looking at your ReviewMe profile, you are suffering from exactly the same "bad squeeze page" effect as I am - I would guess you should be 3 stars for RSS with about 40 to 50 Bloglines subscribers. You might also still have some subscribers that were subscribed to your blogspot domain at kumikosuzuki.blogspot.com.
My blog has been listed as being 52 Bloglines subscribers since I joined ReviewMe, and it is currently over 100.
Every single one of those 500+ clicks was a potential sale and 99% of them might have gone to another blogger, or resulted in a blogger signing up as a reviewer.
If you did read my full review, then I appologise, but maybe you didn't grasp a lot of the details.
Kumiko
· 2 years ago
I've sent ReviewMe 596 clicks from my sidebar and I've been offered 5 reviews through them. I've received 4 offers for reviews directly that haven't required any middle-man at all.
I don't see PPP Direct offering anything that I can't do myself. Most big paying advertisers will not find my site through visiting it directly, but through a publisher marketplace. Any reviews that I'm offered directly from my site will generally be from my readers who it's easy to negotiate with directly.
PPP may have a publisher marketplace shortly, but they don't have one now and that's why I'm not using them. When they get a marketplace, I'll reconsider but until that time I'm just looking at what's available NOW!
I did read your review thoroughly and I'm offended that you'd assume otherwise. The most valid point you made was that they're providing an escrow service - however my advice to you would be that if you're not sure that the blogger will meet your requirements then you shouldn't order the review in the first place.
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
So the traffic you are sending to ReviewMe is converting at less than 1%, why not use a totally different logo linking through to a contact form for ordering reviews?
Your blog is currently being rated based on the fact you have 6 bloglines subscribers based upon the data ReviewMe use.
Based upon your total subscribers, I would think that number is rather low, and you should compare it with your actual Bloglines subscribers listed in Feedburner.
You have 3 different feeds for your blog, and those you need to merge within the Bloglines interface. The bug with ReviewMe and TLA is that they don't count merged feeds correctly.
Feedburner does pick up merged feeds correctly, thus you might have more subscribers than you think.
Effectively what you are doing is sending traffic to a very poorly converting squeeze page.
PPP Direct doesn't remove the option for negotiating a review directly, and handling payments directly.
There is one negative, because if you opt to set PPP Direct at a lower price, then if you are negotiating you are starting at a lower price point.
Nothing is forcing you to charge less for a PPP Direct review.
Looking at your ReviewMe profile, you are suffering from exactly the same "bad squeeze page" effect as I am - I would guess you should be 3 stars for RSS with about 40 to 50 Bloglines subscribers. You might also still have some subscribers that were subscribed to your blogspot domain at kumikosuzuki.blogspot.com.
My blog has been listed as being 52 Bloglines subscribers since I joined ReviewMe, and it is currently over 100.
Every single one of those 500+ clicks was a potential sale and 99% of them might have gone to another blogger, or resulted in a blogger signing up as a reviewer.
If you did read my full review, then I appologise, but maybe you didn't grasp a lot of the details.
Vlad
· 2 years ago
What a killer review! I do think that many of the advertisers still look for links rather than feedback.
Vlad
· 2 years ago
What a killer review! I do think that many of the advertisers still look for links rather than feedback.
Elizabeth
· 2 years ago
I Dugg your post. I'm excited about this new direction for PPP! I've been with ReviewMe for a few months now, and I've had exactly ONE offer, and it was for FIVE dollars. They should be ashamed of themselves for taking that kind of markup.
The problem I have is in deciding how much to sell ads for. I have a PR4 blog that gets okay page views and unique visits, and I have NO IDEA how to figure out what to charge so that I am attractive to advertisers. How did you come up with your figure?
Elizabeth
· 2 years ago
I Dugg your post. I'm excited about this new direction for PPP! I've been with ReviewMe for a few months now, and I've had exactly ONE offer, and it was for FIVE dollars. They should be ashamed of themselves for taking that kind of markup.
The problem I have is in deciding how much to sell ads for. I have a PR4 blog that gets okay page views and unique visits, and I have NO IDEA how to figure out what to charge so that I am attractive to advertisers. How did you come up with your figure?
Stephen Ralph
· 2 years ago
AWESOME review Andy! You've just convinced me to give PPP a second chance.
Stephen Ralph
· 2 years ago
AWESOME review Andy! You've just convinced me to give PPP a second chance.
John
· 2 years ago
Thanks for the informative post, Andy.
I've been checking out these paid posting services and it looks like they all want established sites with lots of traffic and PR. The highest I've had is a PR3 blog, but it doesn't have many subscribers :(
In general, how long should one wait until applying for PayPerPost?
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
You can apply to join PPP as soon as you have a 3 month old blog
John
· 2 years ago
Thanks for the informative post, Andy.
I've been checking out these paid posting services and it looks like they all want established sites with lots of traffic and PR. The highest I've had is a PR3 blog, but it doesn't have many subscribers :(
In general, how long should one wait until applying for PayPerPost?
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
You can apply to join PPP as soon as you have a 3 month old blog
Kumiko
· 2 years ago
Aw geez...there I was getting all fired up and you went and twisted it to review my site and now I feel like I should be thanking you!! Haha!! :)
You're right that PPP Direct doesn't remove the option of negotiating direct reviews, but doesn't that defeat the point of having PPP Direct?
I'm well aware that ReviewMe is lacking in many areas...I think there's a real need for a quality publisher marketplace and I'm quite excited to see if PPP can provide this.
You've called a 1% conversion low, but I actually think that for a reviewme button the conversion is quite reasonable. I'd be interested to know what your conversions will be for PPP Direct.
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
Based upon what I saw on your blog, your first reaction after reading should have been something like "Jeez, is that why my subscriber numbers are so low"
I have been telling ReviewMe about the problem for well over a month. It was painful when one day I hit refresh on my stats to update my Alexa and Technorati stats to have my subscriber numbers drop from 4 to 2
1% wouldn't be bad for cold traffic, but in theory most of the people clicking through are a warmer audience. I would say 1% in that situation is bad, and mine is much worse, but then in many ways my landing page is worse due to the reasons discussed in the article.
The information on Sponsored Reviews is also not something new to them.
At the end of the day competition in this space is a good thing, and I seriously hope for improvements in conversion so I can give away more money.
Kumiko
· 2 years ago
Aw geez...there I was getting all fired up and you went and twisted it to review my site and now I feel like I should be thanking you!! Haha!! :)
You're right that PPP Direct doesn't remove the option of negotiating direct reviews, but doesn't that defeat the point of having PPP Direct?
I'm well aware that ReviewMe is lacking in many areas...I think there's a real need for a quality publisher marketplace and I'm quite excited to see if PPP can provide this.
You've called a 1% conversion low, but I actually think that for a reviewme button the conversion is quite reasonable. I'd be interested to know what your conversions will be for PPP Direct.
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
Based upon what I saw on your blog, your first reaction after reading should have been something like "Jeez, is that why my subscriber numbers are so low"
I have been telling ReviewMe about the problem for well over a month. It was painful when one day I hit refresh on my stats to update my Alexa and Technorati stats to have my subscriber numbers drop from 4 to 2
1% wouldn't be bad for cold traffic, but in theory most of the people clicking through are a warmer audience. I would say 1% in that situation is bad, and mine is much worse, but then in many ways my landing page is worse due to the reasons discussed in the article.
The information on Sponsored Reviews is also not something new to them.
At the end of the day competition in this space is a good thing, and I seriously hope for improvements in conversion so I can give away more money.
Vlad
· 2 years ago
I see 46 diggs so far. Did it make the front page yet? As I was looking through Technorati today, it is so clear how unreliable their statistics are. I thought in the past that Alexa had a problem, but now I would take Alexa's statistics over Technorati's in a blink of an eye.
I just don't understand what ReviewMe and others even factor in Technorati statistics to help you calculate the prices for you reviews?
Vlad
· 2 years ago
I see 46 diggs so far. Did it make the front page yet? As I was looking through Technorati today, it is so clear how unreliable their statistics are. I thought in the past that Alexa had a problem, but now I would take Alexa's statistics over Technorati's in a blink of an eye.
I just don't understand what ReviewMe and others even factor in Technorati statistics to help you calculate the prices for you reviews?
Owen
· 2 years ago
Great post Andy. Wow 25k bloggers is a pretty substantial chunk of internet estate, especially when you consider that quite a few of those bloggers have 3 or 4 blogs !
Owen
· 2 years ago
Great post Andy. Wow 25k bloggers is a pretty substantial chunk of internet estate, especially when you consider that quite a few of those bloggers have 3 or 4 blogs !
Billy Mac
· 2 years ago
Fantastically written review and agreed upon! Pay per post has given "small guy" bloggers like me a chance to make a few dollars and PPP direct is yet another avenue to explore! Thanks for the great review and information Andy. Love your blog.
Billy Mac
· 2 years ago
Fantastically written review and agreed upon! Pay per post has given "small guy" bloggers like me a chance to make a few dollars and PPP direct is yet another avenue to explore! Thanks for the great review and information Andy. Love your blog.
Matt Keegan
· 2 years ago
Andy, your $130 charge is a bargain. I think you could charge more, but that is your decision.
PPP is changing the paid advertising landscape. I, too, can't post most of their stuff on my main blog, but that could change especially if I go ahead and post their widget.
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
There are good and bad things about it.
I am quite particular about links as I will be showing in a followup article (at least I hope) - I want to give links editorially if possible. I am SEO savy and I wouldn't object to someone suggesting which pages of their site they would like me to focus my review on, just like if Google purchased a review from me about Adsense, I wouldn't talk about all their missing features in Blogger.
Actually the hourly rate is very similar to what Google are currently paying bloggers to be able to look over their shoulders and be told what is wrong with Blogger. I think that is $75 per hour - I normally spend a few hours on a review.
Plus I give half the money away anyway - for me the business value is in challenging the boundaries, and price ensures quality and a little respect.
Matt Keegan
· 2 years ago
Andy, your $130 charge is a bargain. I think you could charge more, but that is your decision.
PPP is changing the paid advertising landscape. I, too, can't post most of their stuff on my main blog, but that could change especially if I go ahead and post their widget.
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
There are good and bad things about it.
I am quite particular about links as I will be showing in a followup article (at least I hope) - I want to give links editorially if possible. I am SEO savy and I wouldn't object to someone suggesting which pages of their site they would like me to focus my review on, just like if Google purchased a review from me about Adsense, I wouldn't talk about all their missing features in Blogger.
Actually the hourly rate is very similar to what Google are currently paying bloggers to be able to look over their shoulders and be told what is wrong with Blogger. I think that is $75 per hour - I normally spend a few hours on a review.
Plus I give half the money away anyway - for me the business value is in challenging the boundaries, and price ensures quality and a little respect.
Alon Cohen - BitWine
· 2 years ago
Andy
Good writing is only one of your capabilities which people pay for, now, how about creating a multiple on the earnings by providing real-time advice using a BitWine Widget (Chat, Audio & video).
Whenever you write about a topic apparently, you become knowledgeable about it – an expert. This is what people are looking for when they search and stumble upon your post. You are now in a position to solve someone’s problem, shorten that someone's learning time and improve your returns on the investment already made to gain the knowledge and write the original post.
As a Blogger, if I want to learn more about the PPP-Direct I can read what you just wrote (which I did) and what PPP wrote and so on, or I can just call you for $150/H (you set your own price) and get a 10 minutes summary from Andy "The Expert" about PPP-Direct, about PPP-Direct Widget integration and so on. I saved time you made money.
By combining in any of your posts, a URL to your BitWine profile you create a well oiled marketing machine to provide a longer tail multiples on the returns from the one post you already got paid for. This post is now being propagated or syndicated and read by many, who now have the access to you directly and can pay you for your Advice and time.
Good writing is only one of your capabilities which people pay for, now, how about creating a multiple on the earnings by providing real-time advice using a BitWine Widget (Chat, Audio & video).
Whenever you write about a topic apparently, you become knowledgeable about it – an expert. This is what people are looking for when they search and stumble upon your post. You are now in a position to solve someone’s problem, shorten that someone's learning time and improve your returns on the investment already made to gain the knowledge and write the original post.
As a Blogger, if I want to learn more about the PPP-Direct I can read what you just wrote (which I did) and what PPP wrote and so on, or I can just call you for $150/H (you set your own price) and get a 10 minutes summary from Andy "The Expert" about PPP-Direct, about PPP-Direct Widget integration and so on. I saved time you made money.
By combining in any of your posts, a URL to your BitWine profile you create a well oiled marketing machine to provide a longer tail multiples on the returns from the one post you already got paid for. This post is now being propagated or syndicated and read by many, who now have the access to you directly and can pay you for your Advice and time.
My first time to your blog and I am blown away! I never wanted to make a ton of money blogging but to make the most money I can with the time I have available. Your blog is a bench mark and definitely gives me lots to think about in how to improve my blogging.
You did a great job of explaining PPP Direct and why it rocks!
Daethian
· 2 years ago
My first time to your blog and I am blown away! I never wanted to make a ton of money blogging but to make the most money I can with the time I have available. Your blog is a bench mark and definitely gives me lots to think about in how to improve my blogging.
You did a great job of explaining PPP Direct and why it rocks!
Monika M.
· 2 years ago
Nice review. I just got approved for ppp but have trouble putting the code on my blog. I have a self hosted WP blog and can't seem to find any body tags anywhere in the files. Any suggestions? I don't use widgets at present as I create my own sidebar boxes. Monika
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
Look for footer.php
Place it just before the /body tag
I also tend to place my Google Analytics and other tracking code there as well.
Monika M.
· 2 years ago
Nice review. I just got approved for ppp but have trouble putting the code on my blog. I have a self hosted WP blog and can't seem to find any body tags anywhere in the files. Any suggestions? I don't use widgets at present as I create my own sidebar boxes. Monika
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
Look for footer.php
Place it just before the /body tag
I also tend to place my Google Analytics and other tracking code there as well.
PJ at Ferodynamics
· 2 years ago
It's not worth the 10% for an ugly popup and no marketplace. If you need a 3rd party to hold $130, that's paranoia. Besides, advertisers using Paypal can dispute payments anyway, right? I prefer to negotiate by email.
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
There is nothing forcing you to use it exclusively, you can use a text link saying "if your would prefer to use an escrow service we can negotiate and you can place your order with PayPerPost Direct" and "Or just send me an email to discuss your product and service"
If you are receiving sufficient orders that you can't cope with any more via other services then that is great, the same is true for direct sales.
People ordering reviews might want someone holding the money rather than paying me upfront. I certainly wouldn't write a review without guaranteed payment no matter what I write, though I doubt I would review any service with which I couldn't see any merit.
PJ at Ferodynamics
· 2 years ago
It's not worth the 10% for an ugly popup and no marketplace. If you need a 3rd party to hold $130, that's paranoia. Besides, advertisers using Paypal can dispute payments anyway, right? I prefer to negotiate by email.
AndyBeard
· 2 years ago
There is nothing forcing you to use it exclusively, you can use a text link saying "if your would prefer to use an escrow service we can negotiate and you can place your order with PayPerPost Direct" and "Or just send me an email to discuss your product and service"
If you are receiving sufficient orders that you can't cope with any more via other services then that is great, the same is true for direct sales.
People ordering reviews might want someone holding the money rather than paying me upfront. I certainly wouldn't write a review without guaranteed payment no matter what I write, though I doubt I would review any service with which I couldn't see any merit.
Geoff Simon
· 2 years ago
I tried clicking the PPP direct banner, does not seem to work, any way to talk about hiring you to create some buzz for lead gen company and their unique technology?
I tried clicking the PPP direct banner, does not seem to work, any way to talk about hiring you to create some buzz for lead gen company and their unique technology?
Its great article, you must spend a lot of time create this article. But its useful for me to get started. I'll sign up for that. Maybe it will change my luck in paid for review program. I just use SR for paid for review. I think they charge us quite a lot 35% .. until i found your article.
Thank u so much. :)
John Chan
· 1 year ago
Its great article, you must spend a lot of time create this article. But its useful for me to get started. I'll sign up for that. Maybe it will change my luck in paid for review program. I just use SR for paid for review. I think they charge us quite a lot 35% .. until i found your article.
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You put rookie bloggers like me to shame. You raised the bar, the amount of work you put into this shows. Bravo!
I guess there is only one thing left to do...get rolling on payperpost. If PPP were smart they'd showcase your blog entry in a little video clip on their site...
Thanks for all you do!
David
You put rookie bloggers like me to shame. You raised the bar, the amount of work you put into this shows. Bravo!
I guess there is only one thing left to do...get rolling on payperpost. If PPP were smart they'd showcase your blog entry in a little video clip on their site...
Thanks for all you do!
David
One thing to mention - the time for reviews has been increased to 6 hours which is even better than 4 (for some of the slower bloggers such as myself, hehe).
Thanks again for a great article. :)
-Anna
One thing to mention - the time for reviews has been increased to 6 hours which is even better than 4 (for some of the slower bloggers such as myself, hehe).
Thanks again for a great article. :)
-Anna
One correction - for regular PPP opportunities bloggers now have 6 hours to reserve and write up a post, not four as you stated above.
I haven't heard yet how long we'll have to write a PPP direct review. I do know that the advertiser has four days to approve the review and if they don't approve it in that time it will automatically be reviewed. If they find something that they'd like changed in the review once it's done they supposedly can use the exchange dialog box to talk with the blogger and hash out the details or changes needed. Once a post is officially approved the blogger will be paid immediately. No waiting two weeks or 30 days. Immediate payment!
One correction - for regular PPP opportunities bloggers now have 6 hours to reserve and write up a post, not four as you stated above.
I haven't heard yet how long we'll have to write a PPP direct review. I do know that the advertiser has four days to approve the review and if they don't approve it in that time it will automatically be reviewed. If they find something that they'd like changed in the review once it's done they supposedly can use the exchange dialog box to talk with the blogger and hash out the details or changes needed. Once a post is officially approved the blogger will be paid immediately. No waiting two weeks or 30 days. Immediate payment!
I've linked to you from my review of their new release.
I've linked to you from my review of their new release.
One of the things about PayPerPost is that they have fairly strict rules for visible clues to the legitimacy of a blog. That might be looked on as a bad thing, but it does keep running costs to a minimum.
Ted Murphy isn't going to be the one turning up on your blog to approve your review posts, so things have to be fairly easy to spot.
One of the things about PayPerPost is that they have fairly strict rules for visible clues to the legitimacy of a blog. That might be looked on as a bad thing, but it does keep running costs to a minimum.
Ted Murphy isn't going to be the one turning up on your blog to approve your review posts, so things have to be fairly easy to spot.
This review did take me more than 4 hours, and honestly, if Ted had offered me money to write this review I wouldn't have accepted it.
I meant what I said in the review that I would have been willing to pay Ted for providing this service, in fact many services charge a lot more than 10%.
As an example, if I was to provide some kind of telephone or VOIP consultancy service, the service provider would certainly keep more than 10% for processing, as do many affiliate programs with various processing charges.
This review did take me more than 4 hours, and honestly, if Ted had offered me money to write this review I wouldn't have accepted it.
I meant what I said in the review that I would have been willing to pay Ted for providing this service, in fact many services charge a lot more than 10%.
As an example, if I was to provide some kind of telephone or VOIP consultancy service, the service provider would certainly keep more than 10% for processing, as do many affiliate programs with various processing charges.
Seriously, good work.
Us youngsters have to keep proving ourselves every day to scratch a living.
Seriously, good work.
Us youngsters have to keep proving ourselves every day to scratch a living.
Good work!
Good work!
I am still displaying links for Sponsored Reviews because I believe their pricing is in the same ballpark as PayPerPost, I just wish they would fix their ratings.
I have removed ReviewMe, they were just taking traffic and not converting.
I have actually done the same to the RMP unit from PayPerPost a month or so back because that wasn't converting for me. Maybe in the new upgrade the landing page has been improved.
I am sure you know a lot more about knitting than I do, so every now and then I get to share a little of my marketing knowledge.
I am still displaying links for Sponsored Reviews because I believe their pricing is in the same ballpark as PayPerPost, I just wish they would fix their ratings.
I have removed ReviewMe, they were just taking traffic and not converting.
I have actually done the same to the RMP unit from PayPerPost a month or so back because that wasn't converting for me. Maybe in the new upgrade the landing page has been improved.
I am sure you know a lot more about knitting than I do, so every now and then I get to share a little of my marketing knowledge.
http://www.cashquests.com/2007/05/payperpost-di...
Kumiko
ReviewMe doesn't provide any way for 2-way conversation with someone requesting a review, and even Sponsored Reviews only has a price negotiation based on sending numbers backwards and forwards.
Realistically, PPP are making somewhere between 0% and 5% from the advertiser, which for the facilities provided is an insanely good offer.
I have read everything that was written in your review, and in the comments, and you seem to be locked into a John Chow mindset, which isn't necessarily healthy.
PayPerPost will have a marketplace very shortly, I checked my facts extremely carefully before publishing this review, and spent a long time checking my statistics.
I am going to leave the link there, because I believe the comments on your blog post add something to the conversation, but I get the feeling you might not have read what I have written too carefully.
http://www.cashquests.com/2007/05/payperpost-di...
Kumiko
ReviewMe doesn't provide any way for 2-way conversation with someone requesting a review, and even Sponsored Reviews only has a price negotiation based on sending numbers backwards and forwards.
Realistically, PPP are making somewhere between 0% and 5% from the advertiser, which for the facilities provided is an insanely good offer.
I have read everything that was written in your review, and in the comments, and you seem to be locked into a John Chow mindset, which isn't necessarily healthy.
PayPerPost will have a marketplace very shortly, I checked my facts extremely carefully before publishing this review, and spent a long time checking my statistics.
I am going to leave the link there, because I believe the comments on your blog post add something to the conversation, but I get the feeling you might not have read what I have written too carefully.
I think if I were an advertiser I'd be looking hard at this new service. It just makes sense.
I think if I were an advertiser I'd be looking hard at this new service. It just makes sense.
I don't see PPP Direct offering anything that I can't do myself. Most big paying advertisers will not find my site through visiting it directly, but through a publisher marketplace. Any reviews that I'm offered directly from my site will generally be from my readers who it's easy to negotiate with directly.
PPP may have a publisher marketplace shortly, but they don't have one now and that's why I'm not using them. When they get a marketplace, I'll reconsider but until that time I'm just looking at what's available NOW!
I did read your review thoroughly and I'm offended that you'd assume otherwise. The most valid point you made was that they're providing an escrow service - however my advice to you would be that if you're not sure that the blogger will meet your requirements then you shouldn't order the review in the first place.
Your blog is currently being rated based on the fact you have 6 bloglines subscribers based upon the data ReviewMe use.
Based upon your total subscribers, I would think that number is rather low, and you should compare it with your actual Bloglines subscribers listed in Feedburner.
You have 3 different feeds for your blog, and those you need to merge within the Bloglines interface. The bug with ReviewMe and TLA is that they don't count merged feeds correctly.
Feedburner does pick up merged feeds correctly, thus you might have more subscribers than you think.
Effectively what you are doing is sending traffic to a very poorly converting squeeze page.
PPP Direct doesn't remove the option for negotiating a review directly, and handling payments directly.
There is one negative, because if you opt to set PPP Direct at a lower price, then if you are negotiating you are starting at a lower price point.
Nothing is forcing you to charge less for a PPP Direct review.
Looking at your ReviewMe profile, you are suffering from exactly the same "bad squeeze page" effect as I am - I would guess you should be 3 stars for RSS with about 40 to 50 Bloglines subscribers. You might also still have some subscribers that were subscribed to your blogspot domain at kumikosuzuki.blogspot.com.
My blog has been listed as being 52 Bloglines subscribers since I joined ReviewMe, and it is currently over 100.
Every single one of those 500+ clicks was a potential sale and 99% of them might have gone to another blogger, or resulted in a blogger signing up as a reviewer.
If you did read my full review, then I appologise, but maybe you didn't grasp a lot of the details.
I don't see PPP Direct offering anything that I can't do myself. Most big paying advertisers will not find my site through visiting it directly, but through a publisher marketplace. Any reviews that I'm offered directly from my site will generally be from my readers who it's easy to negotiate with directly.
PPP may have a publisher marketplace shortly, but they don't have one now and that's why I'm not using them. When they get a marketplace, I'll reconsider but until that time I'm just looking at what's available NOW!
I did read your review thoroughly and I'm offended that you'd assume otherwise. The most valid point you made was that they're providing an escrow service - however my advice to you would be that if you're not sure that the blogger will meet your requirements then you shouldn't order the review in the first place.
Your blog is currently being rated based on the fact you have 6 bloglines subscribers based upon the data ReviewMe use.
Based upon your total subscribers, I would think that number is rather low, and you should compare it with your actual Bloglines subscribers listed in Feedburner.
You have 3 different feeds for your blog, and those you need to merge within the Bloglines interface. The bug with ReviewMe and TLA is that they don't count merged feeds correctly.
Feedburner does pick up merged feeds correctly, thus you might have more subscribers than you think.
Effectively what you are doing is sending traffic to a very poorly converting squeeze page.
PPP Direct doesn't remove the option for negotiating a review directly, and handling payments directly.
There is one negative, because if you opt to set PPP Direct at a lower price, then if you are negotiating you are starting at a lower price point.
Nothing is forcing you to charge less for a PPP Direct review.
Looking at your ReviewMe profile, you are suffering from exactly the same "bad squeeze page" effect as I am - I would guess you should be 3 stars for RSS with about 40 to 50 Bloglines subscribers. You might also still have some subscribers that were subscribed to your blogspot domain at kumikosuzuki.blogspot.com.
My blog has been listed as being 52 Bloglines subscribers since I joined ReviewMe, and it is currently over 100.
Every single one of those 500+ clicks was a potential sale and 99% of them might have gone to another blogger, or resulted in a blogger signing up as a reviewer.
If you did read my full review, then I appologise, but maybe you didn't grasp a lot of the details.
The problem I have is in deciding how much to sell ads for. I have a PR4 blog that gets okay page views and unique visits, and I have NO IDEA how to figure out what to charge so that I am attractive to advertisers. How did you come up with your figure?
The problem I have is in deciding how much to sell ads for. I have a PR4 blog that gets okay page views and unique visits, and I have NO IDEA how to figure out what to charge so that I am attractive to advertisers. How did you come up with your figure?
I've been checking out these paid posting services and it looks like they all want established sites with lots of traffic and PR. The highest I've had is a PR3 blog, but it doesn't have many subscribers :(
In general, how long should one wait until applying for PayPerPost?
I've been checking out these paid posting services and it looks like they all want established sites with lots of traffic and PR. The highest I've had is a PR3 blog, but it doesn't have many subscribers :(
In general, how long should one wait until applying for PayPerPost?
You're right that PPP Direct doesn't remove the option of negotiating direct reviews, but doesn't that defeat the point of having PPP Direct?
I'm well aware that ReviewMe is lacking in many areas...I think there's a real need for a quality publisher marketplace and I'm quite excited to see if PPP can provide this.
You've called a 1% conversion low, but I actually think that for a reviewme button the conversion is quite reasonable. I'd be interested to know what your conversions will be for PPP Direct.
I have been telling ReviewMe about the problem for well over a month. It was painful when one day I hit refresh on my stats to update my Alexa and Technorati stats to have my subscriber numbers drop from 4 to 2
1% wouldn't be bad for cold traffic, but in theory most of the people clicking through are a warmer audience. I would say 1% in that situation is bad, and mine is much worse, but then in many ways my landing page is worse due to the reasons discussed in the article.
The information on Sponsored Reviews is also not something new to them.
At the end of the day competition in this space is a good thing, and I seriously hope for improvements in conversion so I can give away more money.
You're right that PPP Direct doesn't remove the option of negotiating direct reviews, but doesn't that defeat the point of having PPP Direct?
I'm well aware that ReviewMe is lacking in many areas...I think there's a real need for a quality publisher marketplace and I'm quite excited to see if PPP can provide this.
You've called a 1% conversion low, but I actually think that for a reviewme button the conversion is quite reasonable. I'd be interested to know what your conversions will be for PPP Direct.
I have been telling ReviewMe about the problem for well over a month. It was painful when one day I hit refresh on my stats to update my Alexa and Technorati stats to have my subscriber numbers drop from 4 to 2
1% wouldn't be bad for cold traffic, but in theory most of the people clicking through are a warmer audience. I would say 1% in that situation is bad, and mine is much worse, but then in many ways my landing page is worse due to the reasons discussed in the article.
The information on Sponsored Reviews is also not something new to them.
At the end of the day competition in this space is a good thing, and I seriously hope for improvements in conversion so I can give away more money.
As I was looking through Technorati today, it is so clear how unreliable their statistics are. I thought in the past that Alexa had a problem, but now I would take Alexa's statistics over Technorati's in a blink of an eye.
I just don't understand what ReviewMe and others even factor in Technorati statistics to help you calculate the prices for you reviews?
As I was looking through Technorati today, it is so clear how unreliable their statistics are. I thought in the past that Alexa had a problem, but now I would take Alexa's statistics over Technorati's in a blink of an eye.
I just don't understand what ReviewMe and others even factor in Technorati statistics to help you calculate the prices for you reviews?
PPP is changing the paid advertising landscape. I, too, can't post most of their stuff on my main blog, but that could change especially if I go ahead and post their widget.
I am quite particular about links as I will be showing in a followup article (at least I hope) - I want to give links editorially if possible. I am SEO savy and I wouldn't object to someone suggesting which pages of their site they would like me to focus my review on, just like if Google purchased a review from me about Adsense, I wouldn't talk about all their missing features in Blogger.
Actually the hourly rate is very similar to what Google are currently paying bloggers to be able to look over their shoulders and be told what is wrong with Blogger. I think that is $75 per hour - I normally spend a few hours on a review.
Plus I give half the money away anyway - for me the business value is in challenging the boundaries, and price ensures quality and a little respect.
PPP is changing the paid advertising landscape. I, too, can't post most of their stuff on my main blog, but that could change especially if I go ahead and post their widget.
I am quite particular about links as I will be showing in a followup article (at least I hope) - I want to give links editorially if possible. I am SEO savy and I wouldn't object to someone suggesting which pages of their site they would like me to focus my review on, just like if Google purchased a review from me about Adsense, I wouldn't talk about all their missing features in Blogger.
Actually the hourly rate is very similar to what Google are currently paying bloggers to be able to look over their shoulders and be told what is wrong with Blogger. I think that is $75 per hour - I normally spend a few hours on a review.
Plus I give half the money away anyway - for me the business value is in challenging the boundaries, and price ensures quality and a little respect.
Good writing is only one of your capabilities which people pay for, now, how about creating a multiple on the earnings by providing real-time advice using a BitWine Widget (Chat, Audio & video).
Whenever you write about a topic apparently, you become knowledgeable about it – an expert. This is what people are looking for when they search and stumble upon your post. You are now in a position to solve someone’s problem, shorten that someone's learning time and improve your returns on the investment already made to gain the knowledge and write the original post.
As a Blogger, if I want to learn more about the PPP-Direct I can read what you just wrote (which I did) and what PPP wrote and so on, or I can just call you for $150/H (you set your own price) and get a 10 minutes summary from Andy "The Expert" about PPP-Direct, about PPP-Direct Widget integration and so on. I saved time you made money.
By combining in any of your posts, a URL to your BitWine profile you create a well oiled marketing machine to provide a longer tail multiples on the returns from the one post you already got paid for. This post is now being propagated or syndicated and read by many, who now have the access to you directly and can pay you for your Advice and time.
Check it out on http://www.BitWine.Com
AC
Good writing is only one of your capabilities which people pay for, now, how about creating a multiple on the earnings by providing real-time advice using a BitWine Widget (Chat, Audio & video).
Whenever you write about a topic apparently, you become knowledgeable about it – an expert. This is what people are looking for when they search and stumble upon your post. You are now in a position to solve someone’s problem, shorten that someone's learning time and improve your returns on the investment already made to gain the knowledge and write the original post.
As a Blogger, if I want to learn more about the PPP-Direct I can read what you just wrote (which I did) and what PPP wrote and so on, or I can just call you for $150/H (you set your own price) and get a 10 minutes summary from Andy "The Expert" about PPP-Direct, about PPP-Direct Widget integration and so on. I saved time you made money.
By combining in any of your posts, a URL to your BitWine profile you create a well oiled marketing machine to provide a longer tail multiples on the returns from the one post you already got paid for. This post is now being propagated or syndicated and read by many, who now have the access to you directly and can pay you for your Advice and time.
Check it out on http://www.BitWine.Com
AC
You did a great job of explaining PPP Direct and why it rocks!
You did a great job of explaining PPP Direct and why it rocks!
Any suggestions? I don't use widgets at present as I create my own sidebar boxes.
Monika
Place it just before the /body tag
I also tend to place my Google Analytics and other tracking code there as well.
Any suggestions? I don't use widgets at present as I create my own sidebar boxes.
Monika
Place it just before the /body tag
I also tend to place my Google Analytics and other tracking code there as well.
If you are receiving sufficient orders that you can't cope with any more via other services then that is great, the same is true for direct sales.
People ordering reviews might want someone holding the money rather than paying me upfront.
I certainly wouldn't write a review without guaranteed payment no matter what I write, though I doubt I would review any service with which I couldn't see any merit.
If you are receiving sufficient orders that you can't cope with any more via other services then that is great, the same is true for direct sales.
People ordering reviews might want someone holding the money rather than paying me upfront.
I certainly wouldn't write a review without guaranteed payment no matter what I write, though I doubt I would review any service with which I couldn't see any merit.
Geoff Simon - gsimon@sky-searchplacement.com
Geoff Simon - gsimon@sky-searchplacement.com
Thank u so much. :)
Thank u so much. :)