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Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

igorthetroll — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:06:59 -0000

Andy, you should talk to Tamar Weinberg. Maybe she can help you with Kevin Rose.

She had her own grievances with him a little while back!

As far as MBL goes there is an interesting thing on the horizon, just keep an eye on it. ;-)

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

igorthetroll — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:06:59 -0000

Andy, you should talk to Tamar Weinberg. Maybe she can help you with Kevin Rose.

She had her own grievances with him a little while back!

As far as MBL goes there is an interesting thing on the horizon, just keep an eye on it. ;-)

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

Danny at Campfield House — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:42:57 -0000

Surprised you would even mention Digg. It's such a 'yesterday' site. Now if you were banned from Mixx, well that would be a story!

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

Danny at Campfield House — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:42:57 -0000

Surprised you would even mention Digg. It's such a 'yesterday' site. Now if you were banned from Mixx, well that would be a story!

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

Cristian Mezei — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:15:27 -0000

It seems I misunderstood you then. I am sorry.

The last part of my comment (about Andy and Digg) still stands.

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

Cristian Mezei — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:15:27 -0000

It seems I misunderstood you then. I am sorry.

The last part of my comment (about Andy and Digg) still stands.

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

TzuVelli — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:11:42 -0000

Digg's environment is a bit acidic for me. So, I have not made a priority of using the site. However, I think I understand your point.

From what you are describing, it seems that Digg once had more of a group emphasis. Where as now it has more of a site emphasis. Causing a bit of a clash of cultures. I can see how the change in emphasis would make some users feel disenfranchised, devaluing their participation.

As I said, I do not use Digg. But, I think i understand your perspective now.

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

TzuVelli — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:11:42 -0000

Digg's environment is a bit acidic for me. So, I have not made a priority of using the site. However, I think I understand your point.

As I said, I do not use Digg. But, I think i understand your perspective now.

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

TzuVelli — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:44:23 -0000

Crisitian,

Please do not misunderstand my comment. It is not an attack on Andy. I have a lot of respect for him. I was simply pointing out that certain aspects of the post could be misconstrued and may not have the desired affect. Unfortunately, for many, perception is fact.

Do you really think that by even writing such lines Andy's audience or reputation would go down the drain ?

Absolutely not.

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

TzuVelli — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:44:23 -0000

Crisitian,

Do you really think that by even writing such lines Andy's audience or reputation would go down the drain ?

Absolutely not.

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

Cristian Mezei — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:09:37 -0000

Good luck. I am not sure this post will have the effect on your readers, Digg, or your reputation that you may have expected.

This is the biggest error you made in your article. Do you really think that by even writing such lines Andy's audience or reputation would go down the drain ?

It's a no-brainer. if you ever want to look smart, you leave things discoverable by readers, not state them out-loud. if you did that, then .. well .. there are no brains involved.

Moreover, Andy just blogs about things he likes or dislikes. And since he's an Internet marketer like most of other guys around the web, he especially deals with websites like Digg.

IMHO, the Digg team have been pushed so many times by their own users because they made mistakes. The fact that they have an internal auto-bury filter is so obvious by many of us.

They probably, in their own meeting place talked and made it to get rid of spamming websites.

Our problem is that they auto-catalogue anything from the SEO/SEM field as SPAM simply because we know web tricks and sometimes know how to get ahead of others.

Now there's the BS. And it's not Andy's BS.

I hope this sums it up.

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

Cristian Mezei — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:09:37 -0000

Good luck. I am not sure this post will have the effect on your readers, Digg, or your reputation that you may have expected.

This is the biggest error you made in your article. Do you really think that by even writing such lines Andy's audience or reputation would go down the drain ?

It's a no-brainer. if you ever want to look smart, you leave things discoverable by readers, not state them out-loud. if you did that, then .. well .. there are no brains involved.

Moreover, Andy just blogs about things he likes or dislikes. And since he's an Internet marketer like most of other guys around the web, he especially deals with websites like Digg.

IMHO, the Digg team have been pushed so many times by their own users because they made mistakes. The fact that they have an internal auto-bury filter is so obvious by many of us.

They probably, in their own meeting place talked and made it to get rid of spamming websites.

Our problem is that they auto-catalogue anything from the SEO/SEM field as SPAM simply because we know web tricks and sometimes know how to get ahead of others.

Now there's the BS. And it's not Andy's BS.

I hope this sums it up.

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

AndyBeard — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:06:20 -0000

It used to be a case that people using Digg would look at a collective page of the stories their friends had submitted or voted on.

Now with the new Digg design, that view is almost useless, and the majority of Diggers I know look at the upcoming page sorted by most Diggs.

If a story gets buried or autoburied, it is removed from upcoming, so many Dig users won't see it, even if they are friends.

In addition, because many Digg users know this is how it works, they won't even bother to vote for articles they enjoy, because they know that the content won't be seen anyway - all they will be doing by voting is accelerating its demise.

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

AndyBeard — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:06:20 -0000

It used to be a case that people using Digg would look at a collective page of the stories their friends had submitted or voted on.

Now with the new Digg design, that view is almost useless, and the majority of Diggers I know look at the upcoming page sorted by most Diggs.

If a story gets buried or autoburied, it is removed from upcoming, so many Dig users won't see it, even if they are friends.

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

TzuVelli — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:52:46 -0000

Hi Andy,

I am a bit confused. Is your point that Digg seems to autobury your articles? Or, is your point that Digg seems to autobury stories related to certain other social media sites like MBL and MBC? Or, is your point that Digg's new algorithm has too many inherent hidden penalties to make it worth using?

Your last statement seems a bit rye.

but above all I am sick of people voting for my content knowing the votes are worthless.

Are you saying that your readers votes are worthless unless they propel your article to Digg's front page? Are you saying that only Digg's front page has value and no other aspect of Digg has any value?

I like your blog and have learned a lot by reading it. I am a bit surprised by this post. It seems as if you are saying that unless you are one of the popular kids you do not want to play.

Good luck. I am not sure this post will have the effect on your readers, Digg, or your reputation that you may have expected.

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

TzuVelli — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:52:46 -0000

Hi Andy,

Your last statement seems a bit rye.

but above all I am sick of people voting for my content knowing the votes are worthless.

I like your blog and have learned a lot by reading it. I am a bit surprised by this post. It seems as if you are saying that unless you are one of the popular kids you do not want to play.

Good luck. I am not sure this post will have the effect on your readers, Digg, or your reputation that you may have expected.

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

Dexter | Techathand.net — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:14:55 -0000

Digg is not that type of Social bookmark that i like,. In fact last 2 weeks ago I also said at my blog that I hate Digg. But this is the first post that I saw saying his site to be banned..

That is great.. And I like you mention that you achieve 3000 readers without gaming the social Bookmark site.

That is something to be proud of.

Happy blogging

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

Dexter | Techathand.net — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:14:55 -0000

Digg is not that type of Social bookmark that i like,. In fact last 2 weeks ago I also said at my blog that I hate Digg. But this is the first post that I saw saying his site to be banned..

That is great.. And I like you mention that you achieve 3000 readers without gaming the social Bookmark site.

That is something to be proud of.

Happy blogging

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

AndyBeard — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:59:49 -0000

Eric I think it sucks more for the guys I cover like MyBlogLog, Blogcatalog, PayPerPost etc than it does for me, as they are the ones not gaining exposure, or in the case of PPP unbiased reporting in other places.

As an example the MBL API is seriously cool, but no article about it has made Digg popular - Kent's one I think only received single figure Diggs.

I don't know anyone directly at Digg (SF is a long way from Poland), but even the people who do don't seem to be able to get these issues cleared up... in much the same way we can't get Google to come clean on many things.

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

AndyBeard — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:59:49 -0000

As an example the MBL API is seriously cool, but no article about it has made Digg popular - Kent's one I think only received single figure Diggs.

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

Eric Marcoullier — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:49:47 -0000

Andy -- that sucks. Do you know anyone over at Digg?

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

Eric Marcoullier — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:49:47 -0000

Andy -- that sucks. Do you know anyone over at Digg?

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

Nicole V. — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:09:31 -0000

I had no idea it was so political. Here I thought it was actually users voting for stories that they truly thought were newsworthy. I guess this happens wherever there is a chance for power to be had. Once someone gets that feeling, of being powerful over others, it becomes very intoxicating. Oh well, people will still find you! :)

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

Nicole V. — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:09:31 -0000

Re: Dear Digg – Please Ban My Site

Cristian Mezei — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:07:58 -0000

Maybe there is the possiblity that there is no 'auto-bury' like Digg has said

Dom, if you're not a doctor, please don't try to open up people. They'll die!