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Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

AndyBeard — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:33:18 -0000

To be honest I don't think many of the techniques are as viable now without some significant automation.

Lots of tools are now being sold to automate the tasks of finding competitors to squeeze out of the PPC listings, and most of the information if not all is fairly widely dispersed on internet marketing forums.

I think most people have moved on to tools such as Zamdoo, Affiliate Radar, Affiliate Elite etc, and in the support forums for such products you will find much better information and specific training far beyond ebooks.

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

AndyBeard — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:33:18 -0000

To be honest I don't think many of the techniques are as viable now without some significant automation.

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

Fleece — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:12:29 -0000

Hey Andy,

Awesome Blog / Review. The most straight up forum I have found on DJK to date.

I have read right through this page and have yet to read a success story. Does anybody have any stats on a campaign they have run successfully using Chris's methods.

Cheers. Fleece.

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

Fleece — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:12:29 -0000

Hey Andy,

Awesome Blog / Review. The most straight up forum I have found on DJK to date.

I have read right through this page and have yet to read a success story. Does anybody have any stats on a campaign they have run successfully using Chris's methods.

Cheers. Fleece.

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

constructicle boy — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:51:54 -0000

day job killer?well,i think it is unreal though.because if this is true,everyone will be earning like mad and it is quite impossible because there is a certain amount of money which is only available that are up for grabs.most likely we will slog ourselves and in the end being killed by the job

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

constructicle boy — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:51:54 -0000

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

Rian Brooklyn [Internet & — Sat, 16 Jun 2007 18:07:37 -0000

Hello Andy,

This is my first time to your blog, interesting stuff. I found you via "day job killer" so I thought I'd pop in and see what the fuss is about.

Now that the DJK fury has come and gone, how did you fair?

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

Rian Brooklyn [Internet & — Sat, 16 Jun 2007 18:07:37 -0000

Hello Andy,

This is my first time to your blog, interesting stuff. I found you via "day job killer" so I thought I'd pop in and see what the fuss is about.

Now that the DJK fury has come and gone, how did you fair?

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

AndyBeard — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 09:10:51 -0000

Yes JV = Joint Venture

In marketing circles there are various mailing lists for top affiliates to get information on new products, and sometimes preferential affiliate pricing or income from sales.

Affiliate backend systems have special features to allow them to have pricing set on multiple tiers for their best performing affiliates.
Special pricing and conditions is however the exception, rather than the rule.

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

AndyBeard — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 09:10:51 -0000

Yes JV = Joint Venture

In marketing circles there are various mailing lists for top affiliates to get information on new products, and sometimes preferential affiliate pricing or income from sales.

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

Matt — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:38:06 -0000

Simple question: What is a JV? Joint Venture?

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

Matt — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:38:06 -0000

Simple question: What is a JV? Joint Venture?

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

AndyBeard — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:52:03 -0000

This blog is just a work-in-progress

I only make small changes, and then write about what I changes, and most of the time it takes 10x longer to write about the changes than make the change itself.

Implementation time for most things to do with Wordpress is minutes rather than hours.

Learning how to implement the change takes much longer.

I have removed the links from both comments because they break my comments policy, and I apply it equally.

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

AndyBeard — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:52:03 -0000

This blog is just a work-in-progress

I only make small changes, and then write about what I changes, and most of the time it takes 10x longer to write about the changes than make the change itself.

Implementation time for most things to do with Wordpress is minutes rather than hours.

Learning how to implement the change takes much longer.

I have removed the links from both comments because they break my comments policy, and I apply it equally.

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

Abby Issey — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:38:27 -0000

Hey Andy, one more thing.. How long did you take to set this blog up? It is really user friendly.

You know what I think. JV is still the best ways to make money online. It should be the ultimate Day Job Killer.

Thanks again.

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

Abby Issey — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:38:27 -0000

Hey Andy, one more thing.. How long did you take to set this blog up? It is really user friendly.

You know what I think. JV is still the best ways to make money online. It should be the ultimate Day Job Killer.

Thanks again.

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

Abby Issey — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:28:13 -0000

Hey Andy, thanks for the informative review post on DJK. It was really a sincere one. But truthfully speaking I agree that its impossible without a list.

[Moderated - links to Squidoo lenses aimed at promoting a product don't count as personal links about you, and thus break my comments policy ]

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

Abby Issey — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:28:13 -0000

Hey Andy, thanks for the informative review post on DJK. It was really a sincere one. But truthfully speaking I agree that its impossible without a list.

[Moderated - links to Squidoo lenses aimed at promoting a product don't count as personal links about you, and thus break my comments policy ]

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

Steven Henderson — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:48:52 -0000

1 Full disclosure - I'm a fan of both APX and DJK - see my reviews at Squidoo under "ClickbankProductReviews".

2 There's an interesting message "between the lines" in DJK.

It is the implicit acknowledgement that the convenient and accessible "Clickbank+Adwords" formula is now so competitive that it's tough to better break-even on an initial sale (even with name-squeeze + auto-responder followup).

Inescapable conclusion being that you need:

a) product portfolio and follow-up systems in place to maximize customer value with repeat sales at increasing price points

b) to explore and exploit less competitive marketplaces beyond Clickbank

3 My take on Chris's own strategy is that THE MONEY REALLY IS IN THE LIST - so:

a) Use Adwords to quickly build a list big enough to qualify for JVs. AdÃ´pt a clear and differentiated "positioning" for your marketing style (as did Kelly Felix). Chris exploits "bash the establishment/beat the system" outlaw sentiments.

b) Use JVs (giving away most of the revenue) to build a BIG list quickly with solid and provocative own product

c) Back-end sell that list with more own product (for fun and profit). Product keynote is to stay provocative and try to offer at least something original. Doesn't have to be big or fancy.

d) JV sell other people's product for a lion's share of the margin (i.e. milk the list hard for lots of pure profit)

e) To come - further ways to monetize (or capitalize?) a large list of proven buyers (affiliate programs + big ticket coaching/teleseminars + ? who knows)

Chris is a smart cookie - and good luck to him.

PS Who did the sales letter for APX? It was a classic for the Hall of Fame.
Couldn't have been Chris himself - the style and grammar is quite different from the doggerel prose of the APX product - thankfully he had the wit to have DJK script copy edited, because it is much more readable.

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

Steven Henderson — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:48:52 -0000

1 Full disclosure - I'm a fan of both APX and DJK - see my reviews at Squidoo under "ClickbankProductReviews".

2 There's an interesting message "between the lines" in DJK.

Inescapable conclusion being that you need:

a) product portfolio and follow-up systems in place to maximize customer value with repeat sales at increasing price points

b) to explore and exploit less competitive marketplaces beyond Clickbank

3 My take on Chris's own strategy is that THE MONEY REALLY IS IN THE LIST - so:

b) Use JVs (giving away most of the revenue) to build a BIG list quickly with solid and provocative own product

c) Back-end sell that list with more own product (for fun and profit). Product keynote is to stay provocative and try to offer at least something original. Doesn't have to be big or fancy.

d) JV sell other people's product for a lion's share of the margin (i.e. milk the list hard for lots of pure profit)

e) To come - further ways to monetize (or capitalize?) a large list of proven buyers (affiliate programs + big ticket coaching/teleseminars + ? who knows)

Chris is a smart cookie - and good luck to him.

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

Tolana — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:47:48 -0000

I found your site searching for "day job killer forum" in an attempt to connect with other people who are using DJK methods.

I agree that Adwords are short-term income, but my aim at the moment is to make a quick influx of cash, so that's OK by me.

The problem is that I don't seem to be replicating the results even though I'm doing my best to follow the Adwords instructions in DJK. I was searching for forums in the hopes of trading ideas and solutions.

I also checked the "FAQ" on the DJK site -- no help there, but Chris did write that he is working on additions to DJK for the beginners out there (like me I guess), so maybe DJK will become more accessible. I hope that he'll offer that content to customers for free, but I'm not holding my breath.

And I'm adding your site to my "must read" list. :)

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

Tolana — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:47:48 -0000

I found your site searching for "day job killer forum" in an attempt to connect with other people who are using DJK methods.

I agree that Adwords are short-term income, but my aim at the moment is to make a quick influx of cash, so that's OK by me.

And I'm adding your site to my "must read" list. :)

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

George John — Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:50:52 -0000

DJK seemed to come awfully fast on the heels of APX. Could be Chris was wanting to ride the wave before it hit the shore? I agree that APX is, at least for me, more informative.

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

George John — Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:50:52 -0000

DJK seemed to come awfully fast on the heels of APX. Could be Chris was wanting to ride the wave before it hit the shore? I agree that APX is, at least for me, more informative.

Re: Day Job Killer Review (condemned)

AndyBeard — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:33:40 -0000

I don't class that as being a review. It was pure pre-sell and could have been written without even buying the ebook. In fact it is quite possible it was written without buying the ebook.