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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>Andy Beard - Internet Business Systems Discussion - Latest Comments in Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.disqus.com/</link><description>Internet Marketing, Lead Acquisition, Online Business Strategy and Social Media with Original Opinion and Loads of Attitude</description><atom:link href="https://andybeard.disqus.com/controversial_izea_while_i_slept_93/latest.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:12:18 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-12526530</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Very good coverage Andy. Its really surprising that some of the popular bloggers are against the PayPerPost Idea but they write about the "Search Engine Love" in their advertisement section.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For PPP Posties: Its really important to setup alternative source of traffic instead of relying on Google.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Cosmonica</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:12:18 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-10992089</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Very good coverage Andy. Its really surprising that some of the popular bloggers are against the PayPerPost Idea but they write about the "Search Engine Love" in their advertisement section.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For PPP Posties: Its really important to setup alternative source of traffic instead of relying on Google.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Cosmonica</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:12:18 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-12526529</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Izea.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When I first saw the announcement in my email, I thought it was "Ikea."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As in "furniture".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I was disappointed to learn that they don't have any office chairs on sale this month.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Laura</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:45:56 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-10992088</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Izea.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When I first saw the announcement in my email, I thought it was "Ikea."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As in "furniture".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I was disappointed to learn that they don't have any office chairs on sale this month.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Laura</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:45:56 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-12526528</link><description>&lt;p&gt;The A-listers can go blow it out their fat hairy arses.  I'm getting mighty tired of these uppity snobbish obnoxious elitist baboon snotbags dictating how the rest of us should blog.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Guest</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:43:35 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-10992087</link><description>&lt;p&gt;The A-listers can go blow it out their fat hairy arses.  I'm getting mighty tired of these uppity snobbish obnoxious elitist baboon snotbags dictating how the rest of us should blog.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Guest</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:43:35 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-10992086</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I've really enjoyed this post. That's what I like to call a nicely wrapped crossblogs post.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Xavier Vespa</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:17:58 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-12526527</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I've really enjoyed this post. That's what I like to call a nicely wrapped crossblogs post.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Xavier Vespa</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:17:58 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-12526526</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Andy, thanks for reminding me -- I'd neglected to add the "nofollow" tag to links in the sidebar. I've done that now!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Richard MacManus</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:08:16 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-10992085</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Andy, thanks for reminding me -- I'd neglected to add the "nofollow" tag to links in the sidebar. I've done that now!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Richard MacManus</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:08:16 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-12526525</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Nice write up Andy. I saw Colleen write up last evening, but didn't have anything in particular to say.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Given the large number of services, setting up a parent company as an umbrella makes sense. I don't see why that would need to be named after the largest sub-company. There are certainly advantages to having a separate name.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I also don't see how Read/Write web can be lovin' the idea of Shared Reviews and disliking PPP.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Am I misunderstanding, or does Shared REviews work like this:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Someone buys domains that already have backlinks for their old content.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That someone these puts new, entirely different, content on those pages.  This new content has instant undeserved page rank from the old backlinks.  Then, the owners monetize the new contents.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sure, the new content may be better than stuff we see on splogs, but where, exactly is the brigh line ethical difference between:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;a) A small business running a company on a fresh new domain, populating  that domain with content, and then buying a link to increase rank and&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;b) SmartReviews buying domains equipped with now irrelevant links inbound links intended to point to the old content and populating that with content?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh well... If Smart Reviews is doing what it sounds like, I'm sure Google will figure this out.  It's not that difficult to figure out the content on a domain is entirely and completely revised after the domain is purchased.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">lucia</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:46:27 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-10992084</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Nice write up Andy. I saw Colleen write up last evening, but didn't have anything in particular to say.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Given the large number of services, setting up a parent company as an umbrella makes sense. I don't see why that would need to be named after the largest sub-company. There are certainly advantages to having a separate name.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I also don't see how Read/Write web can be lovin' the idea of Shared Reviews and disliking PPP.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Am I misunderstanding, or does Shared REviews work like this:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Someone buys domains that already have backlinks for their old content.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That someone these puts new, entirely different, content on those pages.  This new content has instant undeserved page rank from the old backlinks.  Then, the owners monetize the new contents.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sure, the new content may be better than stuff we see on splogs, but where, exactly is the brigh line ethical difference between:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;a) A small business running a company on a fresh new domain, populating  that domain with content, and then buying a link to increase rank and&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;b) SmartReviews buying domains equipped with now irrelevant links inbound links intended to point to the old content and populating that with content?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh well... If Smart Reviews is doing what it sounds like, I'm sure Google will figure this out.  It's not that difficult to figure out the content on a domain is entirely and completely revised after the domain is purchased.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">lucia</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:46:27 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-12526524</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Nice writeup and summary Andy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It makes sense, if you have evolved into a company with many different products/ services, there should be an umbrella name that is different from their flagship product. If PPP happened to be both the previous umbrella name AND the product too, it would be logical to separate it out.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I can see the big perception (and negative connotation) of separating a controversial product name from the rest of its offerings. Not sure what the real reason is as only Ted Murphy will know it as his response was very PR like -- he would never come out and say it even if it was the case that they wanted a name change to get away from the negativity. My response to this is ... "so what?", what exactly is the big deal about this. It is not the first time a company has come up with an umbrella name for all its product.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;However, this move just cements his business savvy and strategic thinking. Regardless of how much he is bulked by A-list bloggers, you can't deny that he is pretty good at what he does i.e. to grow a company and make it successful (against all odds).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Personally, I think that all the A list bloggers should stop winning and complaining. It's starting to sound like a broken down record player. There is enough revenue around the web/ blogosphere to go around with PPP in the picture. Play nice and share guys. Even with him implementing disclosures (which what you guys wined about in the first place, the negativity continued). To me, it just looks like a bunch of spoilt kids in a playground trying to protect their turf -- and THAT is just what it boils down to. A cat fight, that is what it is.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You all should have the sense to know that the more you continue to talk about him and the company, that he is receiving tremendous amount of free publicity and he is laughing all the way to the bank. Funny thing is how you guys never once mentioned smaller companies like BLOGVERTISE and BLOGITIVE which are doing almost the same thing -- just because they are not as big to threaten your turf.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It doesn't take a brain surgeon to put it all together to show that the so called A list bloggers are feeling something they have never felt before -- vulnerability and being threatened by an up and coming company that is making a lot of money. All of a sudden their throne is not so comfy anymore.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It's certainly good entertainment you guys (i.e. the A list blogger) are putting up for us going back and forth with the PPP negativity. And through all of it, I can just see Ted Murphy smiling everytime one of the A listers start saying something negative or start stirring up negativity about his company. Don't you guys get it... the more you talk about him, the richer his company becomes.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">The Foo</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:22:29 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-10992083</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Nice writeup and summary Andy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It makes sense, if you have evolved into a company with many different products/ services, there should be an umbrella name that is different from their flagship product. If PPP happened to be both the previous umbrella name AND the product too, it would be logical to separate it out.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I can see the big perception (and negative connotation) of separating a controversial product name from the rest of its offerings. Not sure what the real reason is as only Ted Murphy will know it as his response was very PR like -- he would never come out and say it even if it was the case that they wanted a name change to get away from the negativity. My response to this is ... "so what?", what exactly is the big deal about this. It is not the first time a company has come up with an umbrella name for all its product.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;However, this move just cements his business savvy and strategic thinking. Regardless of how much he is bulked by A-list bloggers, you can't deny that he is pretty good at what he does i.e. to grow a company and make it successful (against all odds).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Personally, I think that all the A list bloggers should stop winning and complaining. It's starting to sound like a broken down record player. There is enough revenue around the web/ blogosphere to go around with PPP in the picture. Play nice and share guys. Even with him implementing disclosures (which what you guys wined about in the first place, the negativity continued). To me, it just looks like a bunch of spoilt kids in a playground trying to protect their turf -- and THAT is just what it boils down to. A cat fight, that is what it is.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You all should have the sense to know that the more you continue to talk about him and the company, that he is receiving tremendous amount of free publicity and he is laughing all the way to the bank. Funny thing is how you guys never once mentioned smaller companies like BLOGVERTISE and BLOGITIVE which are doing almost the same thing -- just because they are not as big to threaten your turf.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It doesn't take a brain surgeon to put it all together to show that the so called A list bloggers are feeling something they have never felt before -- vulnerability and being threatened by an up and coming company that is making a lot of money. All of a sudden their throne is not so comfy anymore.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It's certainly good entertainment you guys (i.e. the A list blogger) are putting up for us going back and forth with the PPP negativity. And through all of it, I can just see Ted Murphy smiling everytime one of the A listers start saying something negative or start stirring up negativity about his company. Don't you guys get it... the more you talk about him, the richer his company becomes.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">The Foo</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:22:29 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-12526523</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Wonderful, balanced post as always Andy. Thank you for always writing such great content.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Ted Murphy</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:24:33 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-10992082</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Wonderful, balanced post as always Andy. Thank you for always writing such great content.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Ted Murphy</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:24:33 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-10992081</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Nice collection of thoughts Andy, and I'm looking forward to seeing where this one goes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I've enjoyed using PPP over the last few months and they have made me literally thousands of dollars where as Google has made me.....nothing. Have I polluted the internet while doing it? I don't think so, and certainly no worse than people doing all they can to attract search traffic, for the sole purpose of gaining adsense clicks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If Argus brings some worthwhile metrics for gauging the relative worth of a site and other advertisers start using it, the sky's the limit.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Chris Lodge</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:58:09 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-12526522</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Nice collection of thoughts Andy, and I'm looking forward to seeing where this one goes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I've enjoyed using PPP over the last few months and they have made me literally thousands of dollars where as Google has made me.....nothing. Have I polluted the internet while doing it? I don't think so, and certainly no worse than people doing all they can to attract search traffic, for the sole purpose of gaining adsense clicks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If Argus brings some worthwhile metrics for gauging the relative worth of a site and other advertisers start using it, the sky's the limit.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Chris Lodge</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:58:09 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-12526521</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I did, but I don't think it will take them long to overtake that link profile&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain:www.izea.net%20-site:www.izea.net" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain:www.izea.net%20-site:www.izea.net"&gt;Izea.net on Yahoo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain:payperpost.com%20-site:payperpost.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain:payperpost.com%20-site:payperpost.com"&gt;PayPerPost on Yahoo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They also have a fair amount of other sites with significant juice to work with, and 80,000 bloggers, many of whom will blog about this somewhere even if they are not paid (which I wasn't)&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">AndyBeard</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:57:06 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-10992080</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I did, but I don't think it will take them long to overtake that link profile&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain:www.izea.net%20-site:www.izea.net" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain:www.izea.net%20-site:www.izea.net"&gt;Izea.net on Yahoo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain:payperpost.com%20-site:payperpost.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain:payperpost.com%20-site:payperpost.com"&gt;PayPerPost on Yahoo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They also have a fair amount of other sites with significant juice to work with, and 80,000 bloggers, many of whom will blog about this somewhere even if they are not paid (which I wasn't)&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">AndyBeard</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:57:06 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-12526520</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Have you tried searching for izea? Wonder how long it will take for them to overtake the zoo association.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&amp;amp;q=izea" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&amp;amp;q=izea"&gt;http://www.google.co.uk/sea...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Patrick Altoft</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:43:59 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Controversial Izea While I Slept</title><link>http://andybeard.eu/1067/controversial-izea-while-i-slept.html#comment-10992079</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Have you tried searching for izea? Wonder how long it will take for them to overtake the zoo association.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&amp;amp;q=izea" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&amp;amp;q=izea"&gt;http://www.google.co.uk/sea...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Patrick Altoft</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:43:59 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>