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Andy Beard - Internet Business Systems Discussion: Blog Search Revisited – Google vs Technorati vs Techmeme

  • Ian Kallen · 1 year ago
    Nice to hear we could be of better service, thanks for posting this.
    -Ian
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    Ian, just giving kudos where it is deserved.

    Lots of things are still not perfect, I could reel off lots of things that still need to be fixed, or made more consistent, but I am very glad to see that the search results have been cleared up and your indexing speed is good.
  • Ian Kallen · 1 year ago
    Nice to hear we could be of better service, thanks for posting this.
    -Ian
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    Ian, just giving kudos where it is deserved.

    Lots of things are still not perfect, I could reel off lots of things that still need to be fixed, or made more consistent, but I am very glad to see that the search results have been cleared up and your indexing speed is good.
  • WEBOSIS · 1 year ago
    Nice rundown! I tend to default to Google Blog Search, but I'll try going back to Technorati to compare.

    Do you use any other blog search sites? Would love to see your thoughts on Ask and other blog search engines.
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    I also use Megite as a meme tracker for other niches.

    There is also Ask / Bloglines though that has also been a little noisy, and you can always take a look at Lijit.
  • WEBOSIS · 1 year ago
    Nice rundown! I tend to default to Google Blog Search, but I'll try going back to Technorati to compare.

    Do you use any other blog search sites? Would love to see your thoughts on Ask and other blog search engines.
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    I also use Megite as a meme tracker for other niches.

    There is also Ask / Bloglines though that has also been a little noisy, and you can always take a look at Lijit.
  • Amanda Fazani · 1 year ago
    Here's a search engine I'm starting to love: http://www.earthfrisk.org/

    Using this site, you can search all of your favorite sites in one go. There is a section for searching social media sites (Digg, Technorati, Reddit etc.) which may be helpful for locating blogs too.
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    I haven't got to grips with Earthfrisk yet, though I have given Michael some feedback.
  • Amanda Fazani · 1 year ago
    Here's a search engine I'm starting to love: http://www.earthfrisk.org/

    Using this site, you can search all of your favorite sites in one go. There is a section for searching social media sites (Digg, Technorati, Reddit etc.) which may be helpful for locating blogs too.
  • AndyBeard · 1 year ago
    I haven't got to grips with Earthfrisk yet, though I have given Michael some feedback.
  • David Deangelo · 1 year ago
    Amanda, nice suggestion. I'm gonna go check out that website.

    Technorati... I used to use it, but haven't been using it for years. Maybe I should go back.

    Google... I rarely use Google these days. Just kidding. I might have to limit my use now.
  • David Deangelo · 1 year ago
    Amanda, nice suggestion. I'm gonna go check out that website.

    Technorati... I used to use it, but haven't been using it for years. Maybe I should go back.

    Google... I rarely use Google these days. Just kidding. I might have to limit my use now.
  • John Hunter · 1 year ago
    I use both Google blogsearch and technorati (and technorati more frequently) but the last month or so I have been using icerocket the most. Icerocket has room to improve but with technorati being so slow so often I actually prefer Icerocket to both Google blogsearch and technorati now). But all could be much better.
  • John Hunter · 1 year ago
    I use both Google blogsearch and technorati (and technorati more frequently) but the last month or so I have been using icerocket the most. Icerocket has room to improve but with technorati being so slow so often I actually prefer Icerocket to both Google blogsearch and technorati now). But all could be much better.
  • Hobo · 1 year ago
    I think I will be switching as well Andy :)
  • Hobo · 1 year ago
    I think I will be switching as well Andy :)
  • Ben Tremblay · 1 year ago
    Soooo happy to see a ray of sunlight dapple technorati's scenario ... I can't think of another site I'm so partial to.

    "Keep pedalling guys, keep pedalling!"
  • Ben Tremblay · 1 year ago
    Soooo happy to see a ray of sunlight dapple technorati's scenario ... I can't think of another site I'm so partial to.

    "Keep pedalling guys, keep pedalling!"
  • Mani Karthik · 1 year ago
    Andy,

    In Google blog search, time and freshness seems to one qualifying factor..and the results are updated hourly right? Do you see a pattern while re arranging results?

    In Screenshot 4, for "Microsoft Yahoo" search, the 2nd(Andybeard.eu) and third (scripting.com) result is pushed down, while a new entry is made at the top(NYTimes).

    What's interesting is there's a site "Mavericksatwork" which was in the third position on screenshot 3,being pushed down, while there's a "new" entry from NY times (result 4 of screenshot 4).

    What's even more interesting is the first result (http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com) was indexed 3 hours earlier, while the fourth "duplicate entry" from NYtimes (titled - after rejection Microsoft Yahoo hits a fight) is actually indexed just one hour ago.

    So there are two entries from NY times, the one o the top is indexed 4 hours ago, and theres a new entry after 19 hours (as u suggested) which was indexed one hour ago.

    I find it confusing. When you say that - when you are selected as relevant, you stay relevant - it doesnt hold true for the new entry (4th position screenshot 4) right? Had he been better in the onsite factors (KW proximity, KW density etc) he could've broken into the first position even.

    What is your finding on this? (Hope it all makes sense)
  • Mani Karthik · 1 year ago
    Andy,

    In Google blog search, time and freshness seems to one qualifying factor..and the results are updated hourly right? Do you see a pattern while re arranging results?

    In Screenshot 4, for "Microsoft Yahoo" search, the 2nd(Andybeard.eu) and third (scripting.com) result is pushed down, while a new entry is made at the top(NYTimes).

    What's interesting is there's a site "Mavericksatwork" which was in the third position on screenshot 3,being pushed down, while there's a "new" entry from NY times (result 4 of screenshot 4).

    What's even more interesting is the first result (http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com) was indexed 3 hours earlier, while the fourth "duplicate entry" from NYtimes (titled - after rejection Microsoft Yahoo hits a fight) is actually indexed just one hour ago.

    So there are two entries from NY times, the one o the top is indexed 4 hours ago, and theres a new entry after 19 hours (as u suggested) which was indexed one hour ago.

    I find it confusing. When you say that - when you are selected as relevant, you stay relevant - it doesnt hold true for the new entry (4th position screenshot 4) right? Had he been better in the onsite factors (KW proximity, KW density etc) he could've broken into the first position even.

    What is your finding on this? (Hope it all makes sense)
  • Beautiful Minds · 1 year ago
    Thanks for the post and reminds me the importance of title and the other stuffs..

    I think the results about a site comes easily in yahoo these days..
  • Beautiful Minds · 1 year ago
    Thanks for the post and reminds me the importance of title and the other stuffs..

    I think the results about a site comes easily in yahoo these days..
  • Fire Town · 1 year ago
    I hate to say this, but I don't consider any current blog search engine useful. I may use technorati here and there for the lack of anything better, but the results are still poor.
  • Fire Town · 1 year ago
    I hate to say this, but I don't consider any current blog search engine useful. I may use technorati here and there for the lack of anything better, but the results are still poor.
  • Dui · 1 year ago
    I have always just used google blog search. I'm not sure why.

    I had no idea that technorati was so much "fresher". Ten in 10 minutes? That's surprising.

    I knew that keywords in the titles was supreme. It's nice to hear confirmation of that.

    I'm surprised that rss subscribers doesn't really make a difference.

    Thanks for the VERY useful info.
  • Dui · 1 year ago
    I have always just used google blog search. I'm not sure why.

    I had no idea that technorati was so much "fresher". Ten in 10 minutes? That's surprising.

    I knew that keywords in the titles was supreme. It's nice to hear confirmation of that.

    I'm surprised that rss subscribers doesn't really make a difference.

    Thanks for the VERY useful info.
  • Navillus99.blogspot.com · 1 year ago
    I never knew any of this...I appreciate your posting it has been rather helpful
  • Navillus99.blogspot.com · 1 year ago
    I never knew any of this...I appreciate your posting it has been rather helpful
  • Vlad · 1 year ago
    Technorati is far more accurate reporting links (aka "reactions") from other blogs. Since WP 2.3 I miss terribly to see Technorati reactions in the Dashboard. Andy, is there a plugin out there to fix it? By "fix it" I mean to show incoming links from Technorati instead of Google Blog Search.
  • Vlad · 1 year ago
    Technorati is far more accurate reporting links (aka "reactions") from other blogs. Since WP 2.3 I miss terribly to see Technorati reactions in the Dashboard. Andy, is there a plugin out there to fix it? By "fix it" I mean to show incoming links from Technorati instead of Google Blog Search.
  • Jen, writer MembershipMilliona · 1 year ago
    Interesting! I never noticed that Google finally has a blog search. Okay, I basically use Google News and Google Scholar but they must have blinded me from Google Blog. I suppose this means that a great and growing number of credible or popular sources are coming from blogs now. Good for Google! They really know how to move forward over there and create new ideas!
  • Jen, writer MembershipMilliona · 1 year ago
    Interesting! I never noticed that Google finally has a blog search. Okay, I basically use Google News and Google Scholar but they must have blinded me from Google Blog. I suppose this means that a great and growing number of credible or popular sources are coming from blogs now. Good for Google! They really know how to move forward over there and create new ideas!
  • Brick Marketing · 1 year ago
    Technorati has always been our blog search engine of choice. Was not as familiar with the Google Blog Search and are now seeing that Technorati may actually be a better choice anyhow. As Jen said above, it is cool to see that Google really has every avenue covered as far as internet ideas and implementation goes. Guess you can't expect much less from them!
  • Brick Marketing · 1 year ago
    Technorati has always been our blog search engine of choice. Was not as familiar with the Google Blog Search and are now seeing that Technorati may actually be a better choice anyhow. As Jen said above, it is cool to see that Google really has every avenue covered as far as internet ideas and implementation goes. Guess you can't expect much less from them!